| erick | I have a question for the devuan crew | 02:07 |
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| erick | Have you guys thought of bundling the greybird theme and elementary xfce icon theme? | 02:08 |
| erick | for the xfce live iso | 02:08 |
| erick | I mean it's in the debian repos, so why not use it | 02:09 |
| gnarface | if it's in the debian repos it should also be available in devuan, is your complaint just that it's not actually shipped on the live iso ? | 02:20 |
| erick | yes | 02:24 |
| erick | it's mostly because ive seen on the repos that they are having a hard time finding people to maintain the gtk and icon theme for devuan | 02:26 |
| erick | sorry i mean the forums | 02:26 |
| golinux | erick: elementary-xfce-icon-theme is available in Devuan | 02:30 |
| golinux | So is the greybird-gtk-theme | 02:31 |
| erick | yes i know but the question or suggestion is why not use a theme that is supported by the xfce team instead of recreating a new one | 02:31 |
| erick | oh and by the way ive been using devuan since ascii | 02:31 |
| erick | love devuan | 02:32 |
| golinux | Cool | 02:32 |
| golinux | The xfce icon theme is too Fisher-Price in all it's primary fugliness | 02:33 |
| golinux | Greybird is fugly too but taste is relative . . . | 02:33 |
| erick | haha fisher price | 02:33 |
| erick | ive never heard it like that | 02:33 |
| golinux | So feel free to use whatever you want. Just dl from the repos and be happy. | 02:34 |
| erick | so anyone here use xfce and if you do what gtk theme do you use? | 02:34 |
| golinux | These days most colors are Fisher-Price . . . eyeshattering. | 02:34 |
| golinux | I have themed the first 5 default Devuan themes | 02:35 |
| erick | wow cool | 02:36 |
| erick | what ever happened to the clearlooks like theme? | 02:36 |
| erick | that one was cool | 02:36 |
| erick | reminded me of the gnome 2 days | 02:37 |
| golinux | It is based on Clearlooks-Phenix | 02:37 |
| golinux | Exactly | 02:38 |
| erick | ok | 02:38 |
| golinux | All the Devuan artwork is here; | 02:38 |
| golinux | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/04-chimaera-deepsea | 02:38 |
| golinux | Including a tutorial on all the moving parts. | 02:38 |
| golinux | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/documentation/src/branch/master/art/graphics/theming-devuan.md | 02:39 |
| golinux | All bets are off for excalibur though | 02:40 |
| golinux | Might require a rethink out of necessity. | 02:41 |
| golinux | The job is open if you're interested . . . | 02:43 |
| * golinux goes off for a stretch | 02:48 | |
| fsmithred | I use the one golinux made | 03:39 |
| fsmithred | oops | 03:39 |
| fsmithred | I didn't scroll down far enough | 03:39 |
| fsmithred | late to the party again | 03:40 |
| user | test | 08:55 |
| lts | test failed | 08:56 |
| lts | Ah, too late | 08:56 |
| Sompi | https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/26/tightening_linux_boot_process_microsoft_poettering/ | 10:14 |
| Sompi | The idea of "trusted computing" is again being used against free software and locally compiled program binaries | 10:14 |
| onefang | That is not a support issue though, which is what this channel is for. | 10:17 |
| HackphiL | hello hanx Lionel_ et ukine ;) Savez-vous si la distrib Devuan existe en français? | 10:20 |
| HackphiL | hi there! | 10:20 |
| HackphiL | does Devuan install exist in French? | 10:21 |
| Joril | HackphiL: hello! Devuan supports every language supported by Debian :) | 10:22 |
| HackphiL | ok thx Joril I already got an iso... I install it! | 10:23 |
| HackphiL | Joril ~~> is there an xfce-nonfree iso ? | 10:32 |
| Joril | devuan.org states that "Non-free firmware packages are available on all install media", so I think the answer is yes...? | 10:35 |
| Joril | desktop-live ISO: Explore the default Xfce desktop before installing. Then install easily and quickly from the live session using the refractainstaller. Firmware is installed but can easily be removed. | 10:36 |
| HackphiL | I only have 1GB of ram, it should be a little bit short? | 10:41 |
| djph | HackphiL: ouch, that's going to be painful with quite a number of tasks | 11:24 |
| drummy | hello, anyone else having DNS resolving failure on deb.devuan.org? I can't install packages | 12:54 |
| onefang | Hmmm, worked fine for me just now. | 12:55 |
| onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt might be helpful if you don't mind picking one and changing your sources.list. | 12:56 |
| drummy | yeah it seems I can ping the mirrors, I'll try to switch to some mirror then | 12:57 |
| drummy | seems to work, thanks :) | 13:01 |
| onefang | You are welcome. | 13:02 |
| StellarOrbit | Hello everyone. Since Martin Wimpress is going to be bringing the Ubuntu Mate polish to Debian, is there any plans to take those changes and bring them to Devuan? I would love to have the sleekness of ubuntu mate, without systemd and snapd | 21:04 |
| gnarface | StellarOrbit: devuan automatically inherits any package that does not directly or indirectly require systemd | 21:05 |
| gnarface | basically, anything not on this list: http://packages.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt | 21:06 |
| StellarOrbit | gnarface, that's what I figured, but i am unsure if Martin Wimpress plans to make a custom iso or not, and since I haven't used your distro before, I don't know how you make your group packages | 21:06 |
| StellarOrbit | or iso's | 21:06 |
| gnarface | the live isos are made with refracta | 21:06 |
| gnarface | the other isos have a custom build script at git.devuan.org | 21:07 |
| gnarface | the packages themselves are made the exact same way debian makes theirs | 21:07 |
| StellarOrbit | awesome! Thanks for the answer! That helps a lot. | 21:07 |
| gnarface | the vast majority of the packages in fact are not even rebuilt, they're actually the literal same debian packages, served via http redirect through a clever bit of software called amprolla | 21:08 |
| gnarface | some packages are rebuilt to remove systemd dependencies where economically feasible | 21:08 |
| gnarface | the rest go on that banned packages list | 21:09 |
| gnarface | so what you really need to find out is how hard this martin guy is gonna work on tying in systemd-only features to critical functionality of his work | 21:09 |
| StellarOrbit | I understand now. And from what I can see on the banned packages list, it's mostly just systemd packages themselves | 21:09 |
| gnarface | my guess is that if it's all cosmetic there shouldn't be trouble... in a fair world anyway | 21:10 |
| StellarOrbit | gnarface, I am unsure. From what I can see, most of what is done on Ubuntu Mate (save for the system itself requireing systemd) it's all cosmetic with a few additional packages to get ubuntu mate it's signature look | 21:10 |
| StellarOrbit | Which would include the Brisk menu as one additional package | 21:11 |
| StellarOrbit | I would have to look at their repo to see what else | 21:11 |
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