libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2022-11-03

dokma`su won't accept the enter key to submit the password???08:51
dokma`I can CTRL+C to exit the su prompt08:51
dokma`but I cannot submit the password08:52
dokma`Same error under bash and zsh08:54
dokma`If I enter sh though when I press enter I get ^M08:54
dokma`Looks like something is messed up in the keymap?08:55
dokma`OK! CTRL+J works instead of an enter08:56
dokma`So now I can get the root login08:56
dokma`How do I fix the ^M thingie??08:56
dokma`stty sane    fixes the problem08:58
dokma`after   stty sane   I can use su normally08:58
dokma`What does   stty sane   change?08:58
dokma`$TERM is the same...08:58
HackphiLLe Salut à toutes et tous \0/09:16
dokma`hello09:16
HackphiL;)09:16
dokma`I still cannot figure out what stty sane   changed so that it works now09:16
dokma`Where are the default stty  settings ??09:17
rrqtry: stty -a09:51
dokma`rrq: I already compared stty -a  of before `stty sane` and after and found two changes09:52
dokma`but when I do those two changes manually it does not fix the issue09:52
dokma`seems like stty sane does more than what is visible from stty -a09:53
dokma`rrq: where do the default tty settings come from?09:53
rrqtermcap maybe?09:54
dokma`will check if something got upgraded09:55
dokma`it's st10:25
dokma`when I connect to the server from xterm everything works10:25
dokma`but when I use st from suckless I have issues10:25
alex__hi all15:37
landley_If I want to debootstrap manually telling it what http:// sources to use instead of /etc/apt/sources.list, how would I do that?23:09
landley_Basically I want to make sure that the debootstrap I'm doing is using the devuan package repo even if they run debootstrap on debian or fedora or something.23:09
landley_I can apt-get -o but I dunno how to tell debootstrap to do that?23:10
landley_Is there an environment variable?23:10
prglandley: you can pass a mirror as an argument to the debootstrap command line.. eg:  debootstrap chimaera /mntorwhatever http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged23:15
prgthat's what i do in my scripts anyway23:16
landleyThanks.23:16
prgDebootstrap is so handy.. For some reason I've had some issues using the official debian deboostrap with devuan (dont remember exactly what they were), but I use this for setting up devuan regularlly with no issues (https://git.devuan.org/devuan/debootstrap)23:17
rwplandley, deboostrap accepts the repository argument on the command line. Synopsis: debootstrap [OPTION...]  SUITE TARGET [MIRROR [SCRIPT]]23:20
rwpSo something like "debootstrap chimaera ./chimaera-chroot http://deb.devuan.org/merged" should do it.  I'll test this and verify.23:21
rwpYes.  Just like that.  Works for me just now.23:23
rwpI would normally use a different name than "chimaera-chroot" but I wanted to make it clear that the suite is first and the directory is second.23:23
landleyThanks.23:23
rwpAnd now I see that prg had already suggested this.  Oh well.  But pkgmaster is the main central server.  Let's avoid overloading it if possible and use the mirror system at deb.devuan.org if that can work for you.23:24
prgFor sure rwp ; just was using that one as an example.. I know there is a mirror list here (https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan) but what's deb.devuan.org?  I just get a 403 when trying to browse it23:26
rwpdeb.devuan.org is the default mirror list use by Devuan.  It's what will be defaulted to by the installer and by debootstrap.23:28
rwpTry "host deb.devuan.org" to see the list.  (Or dig or ifconfig if you must.)  It's a brute force round robin DNS list.23:29
prgAha - awesome!  Thanks.  I'll update my devuan hosts / scripts to use this.. I had always intended on switching pkgmaster to a mirror but then i forgot :X23:29
rwpThings are improving in this area.  There has been a lot of chatter about adding geographic mirror locality.  CC.deb.devuan.org with CC Country Code.23:30
prgSounds like a pretty good idea23:31
rwpI don't think that is really expected to be working yet.  If you peek you will see it getting set up.  And maybe working.  But not yet finalized.23:31
rwpBut soon I think that will be better.  Because me in the US am still mostly pulling bits from the mirrors across the pond.23:32
prgYeah it would be great to have more US mirrors; but I totally understand how expensive that can be23:33
rwpprg, I'll channel onefang (who maintains this) and send you https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html as useful.23:33
prgawesome - i was just looking for something like this23:34
rwpI'll just note that I sometimes confuse the installer primary and mirrors with the package repository primary and mirrors.23:35
rwpBut those are logically two separate streams of data serving.  So getting the installer and then getting packages often come from different places.23:36
prgYeah i think I was confused about that originally but it makes sense now23:38
landleyThe problem is deb.devuan.org is then installed in sources.lst and when I try to install the rest of the packages inside the thing it goes "boing".23:43
landleyI can manually swap it out after the install...? The initial debootstrap did work with deb instead of pkglist, but apt-get within the resulting chroot didn't.23:44
landleyThis is to automate https://github.com/j-core/openlane-vhdl-build by the way.23:45
rwplandley, After debootstrap you can change anything you with.  It's your system.  It's your rules.  But with great power comes great responsibility. :-)23:53
rwpHow are you using the resulting debootstrap'd system?  Is this a chroot?  Or a bare metal install?  Or a virtual machine?23:54

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