| xisop | gnarface: sorry for answering so late. RTX 2080 Super | 01:19 |
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| gnarface | xisop: i was just gonna help you find out where it was supported, did you figure it out? | 01:28 |
| xisop | gnarface: i hand't looked at it yet | 01:28 |
| gnarface | that's nvidia, right? | 01:29 |
| xisop | yes | 01:29 |
| xisop | something tells me linus has something to say about it :D | 01:30 |
| gnarface | here, go down this list and find the oldest one that lists it https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ | 01:31 |
| fatal | some things never change sadly, not even in a decade. | 01:32 |
| xisop | this might be it https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/148589/en-us/ | 01:33 |
| gnarface | (if you click on the driver version link then then click on the "supported products" tab it lists all the GPUs supported at that version, you want to ideally use the oldest one after or equal to 510.x because that's what is in stable, but if it's supported in backports that's not too bad either, things get messy if you have to go newer than that) | 01:33 |
| xisop | yeah, i'm pretty positive that link is it | 01:33 |
| gnarface | oh, all the way bcak to 430.x ok you should be fine with stable | 01:34 |
| gnarface | note, do not download this from nvidia.com, get it from the devuan repos from the non-free section | 01:34 |
| gnarface | our debian-packaged ones will behave better than nvidia's shell script mess | 01:34 |
| xisop | ok | 01:34 |
| gnarface | we just had to make sure you didn't need a newer version than what's in chimaera already | 01:35 |
| fatal | another option would be using nouveau driver instead | 01:35 |
| gnarface | probably not for that card | 01:36 |
| gnarface | it's way too new | 01:36 |
| fatal | oh, ok. didn't know. | 01:37 |
| gnarface | xisop: there's like a couple dozen packages though i can help you take an inventory after you start installing them | 01:37 |
| gnarface | fatal: everything from the 900 family and up has some cryptography bullshit blocking the firmware access and last i heard that was unlikely to ever change, support in nouveau peaked with the 780 cards | 01:38 |
| xisop | ok | 01:38 |
| gnarface | fatal: actually i could be wrong, looks like they made come progress on the 900 and 1000 series cards: https://nouveau.freedesktop.org/FeatureMatrix.html | 01:41 |
| gnarface | the 2000's look too new still though | 01:42 |
| gnarface | made some* | 01:42 |
| gnarface | although i'd be leery of using it on anything with the power management section still marked TODO because that's how you fry your card | 01:43 |
| fatal | but isn't nvidia working an open source variant? maybe it is too early to use it. | 01:49 |
| gnarface | i thought that was only for tegra stuff | 01:50 |
| gnarface | (mobile) | 01:50 |
| gnarface | for the desktop cards they still seem to have a vested interest in making the windows version look better artificially | 01:52 |
| gnarface | as recently as last week someone was reporting a severe performance drop for pascal family cards with the latest linux drivers | 01:52 |
| siduck | hi, anyone up? | 07:45 |
| siduck | loving devuan so far but its ram usage seems very high as compared to other distros, it uses like 400 ~ mb even in TTY!! | 07:46 |
| siduck | look https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635625925748457482/1052113106345660466/image.png | 07:46 |
| siduck | i completely debloated my system ( even removed unneeded services etc ) , look at the free command output and ps_mem program output | 07:46 |
| siduck | no distro ever took more than 100 mb in tty for me before :( | 07:46 |
| Smilex | Hey! I've been unable to run software that certifies with SSL for some time now. Is this a Devuan issue? | 07:52 |
| Smilex | Specifically it's happening while trying to install emscripten | 07:52 |
| Smilex | actually, I think it's specific to python | 07:52 |
| siduck | Smilex https://github.com/emscripten-core/emscripten/issues/9036 | 07:53 |
| siduck | how much is your ram usage after reboot? ( check in tty with free -h) | 07:57 |
| Smilex | ok, last time I disabled it and it worked. I was wondering why the issue occurred though | 07:58 |
| Smilex | siduck: are you asking me, or am I missing a conversation? | 07:59 |
| siduck | oh i asked for some help previously :( , ig it got lost! Smilex | 07:59 |
| siduck | so basically this | 07:59 |
| siduck | loving devuan so far but its ram usage seems very high as compared to other distros, it uses like 400 ~ mb even in TTY!! | 08:00 |
| siduck | check https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/635625925748457482/1052113106345660466/image.png | 08:00 |
| siduck | i completely debloated my system ( even removed unneeded services etc ) , look at the free command output and ps_mem program output | 08:00 |
| siduck | no distro ever took more than 100 mb in tty for me before :( | 08:00 |
| siduck | if there's no fix for this then i'll just use another debian distro | 08:00 |
| Smilex | looks like only 14 mb are explained there? | 08:01 |
| siduck | yes but look at the output of free -h | 08:01 |
| Smilex | try running htop, and seeing what's the culprit? | 08:04 |
| siduck | i did, i couldnt find anything | 08:04 |
| siduck | a sec, i'll share the output of ps aux | 08:04 |
| siduck | https://paste.sh/Bsf-ZAYz#hl9infHikmHeVb70ZXCCBnjk | 08:04 |
| Smilex | just to make sure, did you disable launching a DE or WM or similar? | 08:08 |
| siduck | yes | 08:08 |
| siduck | the image you see is of a tty | 08:08 |
| siduck | so there's no chance of running DE/WM in the background | 08:08 |
| Smilex | yeah I can see it in the output too | 08:09 |
| Smilex | I tried googling, but found no one else reporting this | 08:09 |
| siduck | same :(( | 08:09 |
| Smilex | do you know if "free -h" shows virtual memory? | 08:09 |
| siduck | im not sure, never happened with other distros for me | 08:09 |
| Smilex | have you tried other non-systemd distros? | 08:10 |
| siduck | yes, void, artix etc | 08:10 |
| siduck | dwm with void/artix never went more than 150 mb for me | 08:10 |
| siduck | and devuan here! ugghh! | 08:11 |
| siduck | btw im using 6.0 kernel | 08:11 |
| Smilex | Aha! It's Rust! | 08:11 |
| Smilex | I'm kidding | 08:11 |
| Smilex | I have no idea | 08:11 |
| Smilex | but yeah, you'd have to verify that if it happens with Debian | 08:12 |
| Smilex | and if it happens because of the newer kernel | 08:12 |
| siduck | i'll see it with antix | 08:13 |
| Sompi | What just happened? The whole internet seems to have splitted | 17:19 |
| spine-o-saurus | when I run upgrade I get error:libelogind-compat: conflicts: libsystemd0 | 17:43 |
| spine-o-saurus | also error:libelogind-compat:i386: conflicts: libsystemd0 | 17:43 |
| spine-o-saurus | broken packages | 17:44 |
| spine-o-saurus | nm had to trigger the full upgrade | 17:51 |
| ___used | NetworkManager is the spawn of systemd... | 18:44 |
| FatPhil | Sompi: it could be explained by the missing buff/cache column in your top. You can dig deeper in /proc/meminfo perhaps | 18:45 |
| FatPhil | oops, was that a wrong tab-complete! | 18:45 |
| FatPhil | siduck: it could be explained by the missing buff/cache column in your top. You can dig deeper in /proc/meminfo perhaps | 18:46 |
| ravehaver9000 | tried to replace sysvinit with s6 a few days ago, but failed due to lack of real knowledge | 21:16 |
| ravehaver9000 | after that i almost switched to another distro again because the screen sudenly blacked out and my system suddenly refused to log me in but i realized as soon as i woke up today that it was nouveau who was behind it so i just installed the propietary drivers as soon as i could do it and its working just fine | 21:17 |
| gnarface | the proprietary drivers don't trace their own dependencies well, so if something else fails to work later it might just be from missing packages | 21:28 |
| plasma41 | ravehaver9000: I wrote you this on #devuan-dev the other day just before you signed off. Not sure if you saw it: | 22:31 |
| plasma41 | ravehaver9000: To use PGP with claws, install the claws-mail-pgpinline and claws-mail-pgpmime packages | 22:31 |
| plasma41 | ravehaver9000: I also sent this a few seconds too late after you signed off: | 22:32 |
| plasma41 | ravehaver9000: If you can test out s6 and resolve any bugs you encounter then I would recommend you collaborate with rrq to get s6 included as an option in the installer isos. | 22:32 |
| xisop | is rootless startx something that's in development? | 22:56 |
| xisop | i've seen it mentioned a few times in the mailing list | 22:56 |
| gnarface | xisop: default now on most fresh installs if you have a video card driver that supports it (basically anything but nvidia's proprietary ones) | 23:46 |
| xisop | gnarface: ah, i see. is that something that can be migrated to? I installed chimaera I want to say almost a year ago | 23:47 |
| gnarface | xisop: uh, theoretically but the details elude me | 23:57 |
| gnarface | check to see if you have a package installed called xserver-xorg-legacy | 23:57 |
| gnarface | and if not, check to make sure you're not already using it without root (it'd be logging to ~/.local/share/ if so) | 23:58 |
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