| jirib | hi all, i'm trying to figure out how Devuan maintains the packages - that is, i see `crmsh' is at https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=crmsh&x=submit | 09:57 |
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| jirib | but if i go to https://git.devuan.org/devuan?tab=&sort=recentupdate&q=crmsh, it is not there | 09:57 |
| jirib | (moreover, it has systemctl hardcoded, so i'd like to figure out how is it with such packages...) | 09:58 |
| buZz | jirib: most packages in devuan come straight from debian | 10:08 |
| buZz | -quite- possible that second link is about our own packages | 10:09 |
| buZz | while the first link is about the packages able to install (which includes debians) | 10:09 |
| jirib | so some packages are installed directly from debian? | 10:13 |
| buZz | jirib: almost all of them, yes , they are handled transparantly | 10:15 |
| jirib | buZz: so what are your sources.list ? | 10:20 |
| buZz | huh? same as yours i bet | 10:21 |
| buZz | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main non-free contrib | 10:21 |
| buZz | etc | 10:21 |
| jirib | i don't have devuan installed yet; i'm observing... | 10:22 |
| jirib | so you don't have corosync, pacemaker packages... right? | 10:22 |
| jirib | i was thinking to give it a try to devuan based cluster | 10:25 |
| buZz | corosync/stable 3.1.2-2 amd64 | 10:27 |
| buZz | pacemaker/stable 2.0.5-2 amd64 | 10:27 |
| buZz | jirib: have you heard of 'virtualbox' ? :P you could just try it out | 10:27 |
| Joril | jirib: FWIW I have a two-node cluster built on Devuan 2.1 | 10:32 |
| buZz | jirib: some people install 'proxmox' on top of devuan | 10:33 |
| jirib | Joril: surprising. `crm cluster stop' does call `systemctl stop pacemaker' iiuc; did you patch it? | 10:33 |
| buZz | why would a cluster manager assume you're running it ON the cluster? | 10:34 |
| jirib | Joril: and... in systemd world, sbd is a dep for corosync. how did you define deps between these daemons? | 10:36 |
| buZz | 'apt install corosync' show me it will install > corosync libcfg7 libcmap4 libcorosync-common4 libcpg4 libknet1 libnozzle1 libqb100 libquorum5 libstatgrab10 libvotequorum8 | 10:36 |
| buZz | 'sbd' is installable in devuan too | 10:37 |
| Joril | jirib: I don't use crmsh, I don't remember if I had tried it out and removed it because of some problem :/ | 10:38 |
| jirib | Joril: so you work with xml directly? :) | 10:38 |
| Joril | I use LCMC: https://lcmc.sourceforge.net | 10:39 |
| jirib | Joril: thx, that explains how you can manage it ;) | 10:40 |
| Joril | jirib: I've just installed crmsh, it looks like the version in Ascii calls "service pacemaker stop" and "service corosync stop", no systemd here | 10:43 |
| Joril | (from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/crmsh/ui_cluster.py ) | 10:43 |
| jirib | yeah, maybe in old version. newer has https://salsa.debian.org/ha-team/crmsh/-/blob/master/debian/patches/0010-Fix-package-management.patch | 10:46 |
| Joril | ...things changed with crmsh 4.0, right | 10:46 |
| Joril | Looking at it right now | 10:46 |
| Joril | Calls systemctl directly | 10:47 |
| jirib | since it is developed in SUSE, no wonder :) | 10:48 |
| jirib | Joril: anyway, thank you for checking it | 10:50 |
| Joril | you're welcome :) | 10:51 |
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