| brocashelm | what's the correct keybinding for page up and page down keys when configuring openbox (rc.xml)? i tried PgUp and PgDn, but nothing happened | 02:33 |
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| gnarface | not sure | 02:34 |
| gnarface | try shift+pgup/pgdown | 02:34 |
| Xenguy | ^^ | 02:37 |
| Xenguy | Else run screen or tmux and use their (copy mode) mechanisms | 02:37 |
| brocashelm | for example, i got a keybinding = C-A-PgUp = supposed to switch to the left desktop (control + alt + page up) | 02:37 |
| brocashelm | but it doesn't work | 02:37 |
| Xenguy | brocashelm: What about Shift+PgUp like gnarface said? | 02:38 |
| brocashelm | does not work | 02:38 |
| Xenguy | Is this a terminal environment or not? | 02:39 |
| brocashelm | no, editing through the conf file | 02:39 |
| brocashelm | for openbox | 02:39 |
| Xenguy | What editor then? | 02:39 |
| brocashelm | trying to replicate my xfwm4 keybindings | 02:39 |
| brocashelm | leafpad | 02:39 |
| brocashelm | i just need the correct values for page up/down keys in keybind key variable | 02:40 |
| Xenguy | So this is openbox behavior you're trying to configure, gotcha now I think | 02:40 |
| Xenguy | Aha, right | 02:40 |
| brocashelm | yes | 02:40 |
| Xenguy | Not too knowledgeable about openbox, although I've used it a couple of times in the distant past | 02:40 |
| Xenguy | That sounds like an easy Net search possibly | 02:41 |
| brocashelm | it's pretty good. lightweight. can be made to be every bit as featureful as xfwm4 without stealing your ram | 02:41 |
| Xenguy | Or man page thing? | 02:41 |
| brocashelm | i've tried searching around | 02:41 |
| brocashelm | hmm... let me check | 02:41 |
| brocashelm | nothing there about keybindings | 02:41 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, I definitely appreciate lean as well | 02:41 |
| brocashelm | just for running the command itself | 02:41 |
| brocashelm | yeah, i think the only thing i want to keep from xfce is the panel (due to whisker menu) | 02:42 |
| brocashelm | thunar is slowly being phased out in favor of spacefm or xfe | 02:42 |
| brocashelm | the latter works without any dbus/poetteringware | 02:42 |
| Xenguy | https://wiki.debian.org/Openbox | 02:42 |
| Xenguy | xfe, is that similar to ranger (IIRC) ? | 02:43 |
| brocashelm | nope, graphical file manager with tabs | 02:43 |
| Xenguy | OK | 02:43 |
| brocashelm | comes with its own writer, package installer (debs/rpms), and image viewer software | 02:43 |
| brocashelm | handles mounting/unmounting without gvfs/udisks2 infections | 02:43 |
| Xenguy | ^^ URL has some content related to keybindings, but didn't look closely | 02:44 |
| brocashelm | yeah, those don't give the specifics on what variables to use | 02:44 |
| brocashelm | just defaults for openbox (using normal references) | 02:44 |
| Xenguy | Lack of documentation, bah | 02:44 |
| brocashelm | yup. even the official wiki ain't much! | 02:44 |
| Xenguy | You'd think someone else would have already crossed this bridge long ago though, and mentioned it on the Net | 02:45 |
| brocashelm | http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:Bindings | 02:45 |
| Xenguy | aha | 02:45 |
| brocashelm | obconf also doesn't seem to want to run :\ | 02:45 |
| brocashelm | not obconf | 02:45 |
| brocashelm | i meant lx hotkeys | 02:45 |
| Xenguy | You know why I run MATE? | 02:45 |
| brocashelm | because you miss gnome2? lol | 02:45 |
| Xenguy | Yes, *and* I'm a chess player! | 02:46 |
| brocashelm | lol | 02:46 |
| brocashelm | also, atril is a based pdf viewer. good job | 02:46 |
| Xenguy | Bdm-tsss | 02:46 |
| brocashelm | anyway, still checking | 02:46 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, atril is default viewer on MATE I believe | 02:46 |
| Xenguy | Good luck | 02:46 |
| Xenguy | Hint for atril: j and k keys (FTW) | 02:47 |
| brocashelm | nice | 02:47 |
| brocashelm | i replaced okular with it | 02:47 |
| Xenguy | Good call, okular is more heavy duty | 02:47 |
| brocashelm | no more *KRASHES*ware for me. even kolourpaint had to go. ms paint xp on wine is good enough | 02:47 |
| Xenguy | kolourpaint seems to work as advertised, but you are running later issue than me too | 02:47 |
| brocashelm | protip: mupdf works on non-dbus/avahi/wayland systems | 02:47 |
| Xenguy | It's alright, not my first choice though | 02:48 |
| brocashelm | it has no gui, but you can launch a pdf with it | 02:48 |
| brocashelm | oh, it's the same as when i first used it | 02:48 |
| brocashelm | i find the font editor a pain | 02:48 |
| brocashelm | i'll stick with paint xp and maybe even xpaint on native | 02:48 |
| Xenguy | My requirements are probably quite basic too | 02:48 |
| Xenguy | Whatever works, always been my motto : -) | 02:49 |
| brocashelm | yeah. i'm on daedalus, so i will be following stable | 02:49 |
| Xenguy | In a linux environment, we get good at adapting to various conditions, cos that's the way Linux rolls, but the good news is there are always other options : -) | 02:49 |
| brocashelm | my ceres days are over, unless i get bored again lol | 02:49 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, give me the stable/trailing edge, or give me death | 02:50 |
| Xenguy | I don't need to be cutting edge, cos then I bleed sometimes | 02:50 |
| brocashelm | to be fair, ceres wasn't too bad. apt-listbugs starting from "important" (in the conf) saved me | 02:50 |
| brocashelm | but yeah, not the true way to run devuan | 02:51 |
| brocashelm | i didn't want to reinstall and do it all over again. i have years of stuff tweaked on these rigs | 02:51 |
| Xenguy | I ran sid for ages, never had any major problem I couldn't recover from, but at some point stable becomes kind of a comforting option, cos things aren't likely to break | 02:51 |
| brocashelm | i guess for me, updating all the time gets tedious | 02:51 |
| Xenguy | It takes time, simple as that -- how do I want to spend my limited time? | 02:52 |
| brocashelm | at least with ceres, you don't have issues with dependency breakages unlike using backports | 02:52 |
| Xenguy | In the early days, sure, I was rolling my own kernels for fun, but after awhile, that gets a bit old | 02:52 |
| brocashelm | so ceres systems can upgrade everything else | 02:52 |
| Xenguy | Yeah, latest and greatest(?) | 02:53 |
| brocashelm | bgstack15 has some cool ceres repos with exclusive software, like gtk3-classic and makemkv | 02:53 |
| brocashelm | gnarface, xenguy: aha, found it: Page_Up and Page_Down | 03:04 |
| brocashelm | example: C-A-Page_Down (ctrl + alt + page down) | 03:05 |
| gnarface | hmm, interesting | 03:07 |
| snork | brocashelm are you doing "openbox --restart" between edits? | 03:08 |
| Xenguy | Huh, similar to C-A-Left for workspaces (on MATE anyway) | 03:08 |
| snork | Not trying to be a goof, just checking. :-) | 03:08 |
| brocashelm | snork: openbox --replace | 03:09 |
| brocashelm | and yeah, C-A-Left also applies to openbox :) | 03:09 |
| snork | Heh, --replace sure works :-) | 03:12 |
| brocashelm | :D | 03:13 |
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