| anon20232023 | How install playonlinux in devuan? | 08:07 |
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| brocashelm | anon20232023: apt install playonlinux | 08:24 |
| anon20232023 | brocashelm, error https://paste.debian.net/1274356/ | 08:26 |
| brocashelm | which version of devuan? | 08:39 |
| brocashelm | enable 32-bit architecture if you haven't yet | 08:39 |
| brocashelm | anon20232023: dpkg --add-architecture i386 | 08:41 |
| brocashelm | try your command again afterwards | 08:41 |
| anon20232023 | brocashelm, new error https://paste.debian.net/1274357/ | 08:44 |
| brocashelm | post /etc/apt/sources.list | 08:53 |
| brocashelm | have you tried installing playonlinux:i386? | 08:53 |
| brocashelm | and also, sounds like you might want to check your sources.list.d folder | 08:57 |
| anon20232023 | sources.list https://paste.debian.net/1274360/ | 08:57 |
| brocashelm | oh, ok | 08:58 |
| brocashelm | that's why | 08:58 |
| brocashelm | you need to add contrib next to main | 08:58 |
| brocashelm | change line 2 from deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main to -> deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main contrib | 08:58 |
| brocashelm | then run apt update and install playonlinux | 08:58 |
| spine-o-saurus | Hay my fluxbox key combos are not working against the mod4 combos | 13:40 |
| spine-o-saurus | what is the issue? | 13:40 |
| buZz | whats mod4? | 13:45 |
| buZz | ah, 'Super' | 13:45 |
| buZz | did you mean to use 'Super' ? | 13:45 |
| buZz | ah no, its Mod4? eh | 13:45 |
| buZz | Mod4 Z :Exec /home/buzz/code/artnetperl/zzz.sh | 13:46 |
| buZz | Mod4 W :Exec /home/buzz/code/artnetperl/weg.sh | 13:46 |
| buZz | yeah dno, should work? | 13:46 |
| spine-o-saurus | it works for mod4+left arrow but not for the letter keys | 13:48 |
| buZz | did you capitalize em? | 13:50 |
| buZz | can you paste a config line that doesnt work? | 13:50 |
| spine-o-saurus | https://dpaste.org/nExZh | 13:51 |
| buZz | spine-o-saurus: those are invalid config lines | 13:51 |
| spine-o-saurus | how so? | 13:51 |
| buZz | Mod4 E :Exec caja | 13:51 |
| buZz | rtfm, spine-o-saurus ;) | 13:51 |
| spine-o-saurus | damn your right now its working | 13:53 |
| buZz | yeah, following documentation helps ;) | 13:53 |
| buZz | maybe https://wiki.debian.org/FluxBox#Keyboard_Shortcuts | 13:54 |
| spine-o-saurus | df -h | 14:21 |
| youni | hello, devuans! I have installed slackware with EElilo (for uefi) on another separate disk. And it has efi files here: | 19:08 |
| youni | ```ls /media/slack/EFI/Slackware/ | 19:08 |
| youni | elilo.conf elilo.efi initrd.gz vmlinuz``` | 19:08 |
| youni | And I run under Devuan `update-grub2` and it successfully finds Elilo disk, but it creates grub menu entry with wrong file path: | 19:08 |
| youni | chainloader /EFI/elilo.efi/elilo.efi | 19:08 |
| youni | actually I need to edit it like this: chainloader /EFI/Slackware/elilo.efi | 19:08 |
| youni | I created my own menu entry. But I also want to ask you is it possible to be that update-grub will create correct Elilo file path while scanning disks? I already mounted it and run `update-grub`, but it creates same wrong menu entry | 19:08 |
| nemo | huh... does devuan customise update-grub? | 19:53 |
| * nemo looks | 19:53 | |
| youni | may be. they have no such feature do not touch original packages and leave them as is as Slackware does. | 19:54 |
| nemo | https://git.devuan.org/devuan | 19:54 |
| nemo | not finding it here | 19:55 |
| nemo | youni: what I mean is | 19:55 |
| nemo | youni: devuan is a thin skin over debian | 19:55 |
| nemo | so it tries not to change debian stuff too much | 19:55 |
| nemo | so... to find out what's going on here, might have to check the patches on debian's package, not devuan's | 19:55 |
| nemo | and yeah, I don't see grub2 in devuan's stuff at all | 19:55 |
| nemo | I do remember debian's grub breaking devuan before so was plausible they'd changed things, but not finding that | 19:56 |
| fsmithred | hint: any packages we fork from debian have "devuan" in the version. | 19:56 |
| nemo | fsmithred: oh? good to know. | 19:56 |
| * nemo files that away | 19:56 | |
| youni | Also i has these messages in update-grub2: | 19:57 |
| youni | Warning: os-prober will be executed to detect other bootable partitions. | 19:57 |
| youni | Its output will be used to detect bootable binaries on them and create new boot entries. | 19:57 |
| youni | Found Rocky Linux 9.1 (Blue Onyx) on /dev/nvme0n1p3 | 19:57 |
| youni | Found Slackware 15.0 x86_64 (post 15.0 -current) on /dev/nvme0n1p4 | 19:57 |
| youni | Found ELILO Boot Manager on /dev/sda1@/EFI/elilo.efi/elilo.efi | 19:57 |
| youni | done | 19:57 |
| nemo | ah. that explains your path then eh | 19:58 |
| youni | after line Rocky: error: unknown filesystem | 19:58 |
| youni | After line Slackware: error: unknown filesystem | 19:58 |
| fsmithred | youni, do you have efi partitions on more than one disk? | 19:59 |
| youni | here are entire output http://paste.debian.net/1274422/ and i am not sure it works fine, because it gives errors on ext4 partitions | 19:59 |
| nemo | fsmithred: related to your hint... $ apt list --installed 2>/dev/null | grep -P "^\S+ \S+devuan[a-z0-9]*" tried to bang together a crude filter. this returned 72 packages. would that be the devuan touched stuff on my home machine probably? | 20:01 |
| youni | Yes, I have two disks with efi partitions, but I am not sure I created it correctly on /dev/sda1: http://paste.debian.net/1274423/ so /dev/sda1 was made by my hands, i am not sure it's right. and nvme0n1p1 was edited during devuan installation and it looks another way and it is correct | 20:02 |
| youni | apt devuan : http://paste.debian.net/1274424/ | 20:03 |
| nemo | fsmithred: if so, 72 out of 3195 so my devuan is 97¾% debian ☺ ofc... I'm sure those 72 are pretty important | 20:03 |
| fsmithred | nemo, there are around 200 forked packages, and about 100 of them are task-<some language> translations for taksel. | 20:04 |
| fsmithred | and we don't do the translations, they're all part of the same source package. | 20:05 |
| nemo | ah. adding a grep -Pv '^task' narrows down to 67... anyway. interesting hint. I will remember that | 20:07 |
| fsmithred | youni, having two efi partitions might be confusing the system. I'm not sure how that would work, and it's probably different for different motherboards. | 20:07 |
| nemo | in part because, well, #devuan is small, #debian is big, most issues are really with debian, but #debian gets very angry if they discover they were tricked into supporting devuan. | 20:07 |
| nemo | even if problem was with their stuff. like. something super obviously their issue like release schedule for backports for apache2 | 20:07 |
| fsmithred | I would expect all the boot entries in one installation to be on the same efi partition. | 20:08 |
| nemo | so. I try to not mention devuan at all. and now I know to try here first if I can narrow down the issue to one of this small package list | 20:08 |
| youni | i should refine: i have two disks with efi partitions - one partition on each disk | 20:08 |
| fsmithred | um, I think we automated referral of bugs to debian where appropriate. | 20:09 |
| fsmithred | yes youni, that's what I thought you meant. | 20:09 |
| youni | you mean to place devuan's initrd and vmlinuz and slackware's initrd and vmlinuz to the one efi partition? i am not expert for doing so. i hope there should be easier steps | 20:12 |
| fsmithred | I don't put any vmlinuz or initrd in the efi partition. | 20:13 |
| fsmithred | those go in the /boot directory, which can be part of the root partition or on a separate linux partition. | 20:13 |
| youni | when i installed Rocky after devuan was already installed, and I chosen boot partition the same as devuan, Rocky has broken my devuan's boot. So it is impossible to do automatically | 20:14 |
| fsmithred | there's also a thing called kernel stub booting or something like that. I'm not sure how that works. | 20:14 |
| fsmithred | put devuan's /boot directory with the rest of the OS | 20:15 |
| youni | ok. this is only one step. what to do next? | 20:16 |
| fsmithred | there should be a directory for each linux in the efi partitoin | 20:16 |
| fsmithred | I'm not sure what to do next because I'm not really sure of what your setup is. | 20:16 |
| youni | cool, i need to dig in grub documentation for check how to place many linuxes and how to mount systems for boot | 20:17 |
| fsmithred | did Rocky format the boot partition that devuan was using? | 20:17 |
| youni | yes, and i cannot avoid formatting during rocky installation process | 20:18 |
| fsmithred | You know about this one? https://rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/index.html | 20:19 |
| youni | thank you. i will try to learn | 20:19 |
| fsmithred | boot partition is not same thing as efi partition | 20:20 |
| youni | ls -l /boot/efi/EFI | 20:21 |
| youni | total 24 | 20:21 |
| youni | drwx------ 2 root root 8192 Feb 24 15:51 BOOT | 20:21 |
| youni | drwx------ 2 root root 8192 Feb 28 21:07 debian | 20:21 |
| youni | drwx------ 2 root root 8192 Feb 24 16:53 rocky | 20:21 |
| youni | i need to add slackware here | 20:23 |
| youni | as i know slackware does not support grub. and there is nothing in Slackware's /boot/grub dir: | 20:24 |
| youni | ls /media/slack/boot/grub | 20:25 |
| youni | themes | 20:25 |
| youni | but there are elilo in slackware's /boot dir: | 20:26 |
| youni | ls -ld /media/slack/boot/{vm,init}* | 20:26 |
| youni | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 10306796 Mar 17 20:00 /media/slack/boot/initrd.gz | 20:26 |
| youni | drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Mar 17 20:00 /media/slack/boot/initrd-tree | 20:26 |
| youni | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Mar 17 04:24 /media/slack/boot/vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-huge-6.1.19 | 20:26 |
| youni | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Mar 17 04:24 /media/slack/boot/vmlinuz-generic -> vmlinuz-generic-6.1.19 | 20:26 |
| youni | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8150848 Mar 14 00:44 /media/slack/boot/vmlinuz-generic-6.1.19 | 20:26 |
| youni | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 19 Mar 17 04:24 /media/slack/boot/vmlinuz-huge -> vmlinuz-huge-6.1.19 | 20:26 |
| youni | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12081696 Mar 14 00:42 /media/slack/boot/vmlinuz-huge-6.1.19 | 20:26 |
| youni | ls -ld /media/slack/boot/elilo* | 20:27 |
| youni | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 217896 Aug 5 2022 /media/slack/boot/elilo-ia32.efi | 20:27 |
| youni | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 239734 Aug 5 2022 /media/slack/boot/elilo-x86_64.efi | 20:27 |
| youni | i will try to add my custom menu entry | 20:27 |
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