| Voidling-phone | Howdy | 21:14 |
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| Voidling-phone | Random question, is there a way to hide my internet usage from my ISP? Just found out that my close friend who has access has been tracking me.. | 21:17 |
| fluffywolf | 1) call cops, 2) switch ISPs. you could use a VPN, but that's not the real problem. | 21:18 |
| fsmithred | use tor browser | 21:26 |
| Voidling-phone | i dont want to call cops on him, hes a close friend.. but he really disappointed me | 21:26 |
| Voidling-phone | cant alao change isp either | 21:26 |
| Voidling-phone | i guess vpn is my only option | 21:26 |
| fluffywolf | if he's abusing his access as an employee of the ISP, they will very much want to fire him. | 21:28 |
| fsmithred | your friend has access via your computer or does he work for the ISP? | 21:28 |
| Voidling-phone | he knows someone from isp | 21:28 |
| fsmithred | your history will still be accessible if that person gets fired, but your friend won't know it anymore. Just the rest of the world. | 21:29 |
| debdog | that is _very_ creepy. I wouldn't bother about the outcome reporting this ISP emplyee | 21:30 |
| fluffywolf | ever consider that maybe friends don't stalk people by bribing ISP employees to monitor their internet? | 21:30 |
| debdog | roght | 21:31 |
| debdog | right | 21:31 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I wouldn't ever trust an ISP anyway, tor, vpn or switching providers are options it depends what information you don't mind them having. | 21:33 |
| scorpion2185[m] | Hello, I am trying runit how do you restart lightdm? | 21:34 |
| fluffywolf | this sounds too much like the type of thing that leads up to a missing person feature on the 6:00 news... | 21:35 |
| debdog | scorpion2185[m]: without knowing, something like /etc/init.d/lightdm restart | 21:36 |
| scorpion2185[m] | is that how runit is used? | 21:37 |
| scorpion2185[m] | i know that is has sv up service | 21:38 |
| scorpion2185[m] | or it was sv service up | 21:38 |
| scorpion2185[m] | but that didn't work | 21:38 |
| debdog | oh, runit, sorry. | 21:38 |
| debdog | I was too enthusiastic | 21:38 |
| * debdog flogs himself | 21:39 | |
| scorpion2185[m] | ~/bin path,in ~/.profile, is not source I had to add it to .bashrc | 21:40 |
| fsmithred | scorpion2185[m], runit in debian and devuan will use the sysvinit scripts if they are present and if there are no runit scripts for the service. | 21:42 |
| fsmithred | and only a few runit scripts are enabled by default. Did you add any yourself? | 21:42 |
| debdog | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Runit says "sv restart /var/service/[...]" | 21:42 |
| fsmithred | Or did you install the new package that adds some scripts? I don't recall the name. | 21:42 |
| scorpion2185[m] | i am new to Devuan and to runit , I never used sysvinit | 21:43 |
| fsmithred | I think just the service name works (without the path) | 21:43 |
| fsmithred | coming from a systemd distro? | 21:43 |
| scorpion2185[m] | yes thanks for saving us from soystemd | 21:45 |
| scorpion2185[m] | fsmithred no I didn't add any script | 21:45 |
| scorpion2185[m] | > runit in debian and devuan will use the sysvinit scripts if they are present and if there are no runit scripts for the service. | 21:45 |
| scorpion2185[m] | so do I use sysvinit command? | 21:45 |
| scorpion2185[m] | fsmithred: no | 21:46 |
| fsmithred | uh, yeah, I think the sysvinit command will work. | 21:46 |
| fsmithred | /etc/init.d/lightdm restart | 21:47 |
| scorpion2185[m] | I'll check `sv restart /var/service/[...]"` too | 21:47 |
| fsmithred | runit-services is the new package. It's in daedalus and ceres (testing and unstable) | 21:47 |
| fsmithred | just service name, not /var/service/whatever (pretty sure it doesn't exit in devuan) | 21:47 |
| fsmithred | I'll get a link to a discussion about it | 21:48 |
| scorpion2185[m] | how is testing on Devuan? stable ends to have old software | 21:48 |
| fsmithred | daedalus is same as debian testing, which is already in freeze and will probably be released in the next couple months. | 21:51 |
| fsmithred | so yeah, it works well. There are still a lot of updates coming through. | 21:51 |
| fsmithred | ok, I don't know which discussion on the forum I wanted to link. There are too many. | 21:52 |
| fsmithred | found it. This is long, but there's some good stuff in here. The debian maintainer for runit is in this conversation. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716 | 21:55 |
| fsmithred | scorpion2185[m], ^^^ | 21:55 |
| fsmithred | install runit-services before you start adding your own runscripts. | 21:57 |
| scorpion2185[m] | what about dinit? | 21:57 |
| fsmithred | this post describes the runit-services package with a list of the ones that are included. https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=41084#p41084 | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | I've heard of dinit. Talk to stevelitt about it. | 21:59 |
| scorpion2185[m] | ok thanks | 22:06 |
| scorpion2185[m] | Devuan installer overwrote Debian EFI folder | 22:07 |
| scorpion2185[m] | I thought that something was wrong since I couldn't see it on refind | 22:08 |
| scorpion2185[m] | i now deleted Debian from the hard disk but I think that it should really make a devuan folder instead in /boot/efi/EFI/ | 22:09 |
| scorpion2185[m] | on refind it has Debian logo and so I reinstalled Devuan since I didn't see it | 22:10 |
| fsmithred | sorry, I got disconnected. | 22:17 |
| fsmithred | I'm not sure if refind sees devuan or thinks it's debian. | 22:18 |
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| scorpion2185[m] | Since Devuan used the /boot/efi/EFI folder refind shows the Debian logo and it's confusing | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | I think the devuan installer does make a debian folder that just redirects to a devuan folder. | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | and I'm pretty sure that behavior is a workaround for secure boot | 22:20 |
| scorpion2185[m] | file /boot/efi/EFI/debian/ | 22:20 |
| scorpion2185[m] | /boot/efi/EFI/debian/: directory | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | is there a devuan dir? | 22:20 |
| scorpion2185[m] | no | 22:21 |
| invex | hello guys,i have big problem with laptom generally bios. i think i have some mastered virus on it, does have anyone who will help me little with fix it :( | 23:35 |
| debdog | DON'T PANIC! | 23:37 |
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