libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2023-04-12

fsflp23brocashelm: This article is *not* from Debian but it *estimates* Bookworm release around mid-year.  https://linuxiac.com/debian-12-will-include-the-kde-plasma-5-27-desktop-environment/07:53
fsflp23Don't know how they came up with this estimate for release date.....07:54
buZzwet fingers in the wind08:01
buZzor just extrapolation08:01
brocashelmso far, the dates are the same as on the bullseye freeze08:06
brocashelm2021-01-12 - Milestone 1 - Transition and (build-)essential Freeze08:06
brocashelm2021-02-12 - Milestone 2 - Soft Freeze08:06
brocashelm2021-03-12 - Milestone 3 - Hard Freeze - for key packages and packages without autopkgtests08:06
brocashelm2021-07-17 - Milestone 4 - Full Freeze08:06
fsflp23Good to know.08:09
FatPhilhow can I go back to an old version of firefox, the latest version is unusably slow (e.g. it takes ~5s just to go back to a previous page in my history, completely unusable)17:46
FatPhilit's also buggy, it's failing to reload correctly, which considering that I generate graphs and want to be able to refresh them daily, is a right annoyance18:06
brocashelmfatphil: are you using the esr version?18:16
FatPhilii  firefox-esr                          102.9.0esr-1~deb10u118:16
brocashelmhmmm... the only two things i would consider would be grabbing an earlier deb file or building a specific version if your system can install it18:21
brocashelmbullseye/chimaera version is still on 9118:22
brocashelmif you install that version, you could then pin the package and set its priority to -1 on daedalus and ceres (separate entries) so that apt does not fetch updates for that package from those repos18:23
brocashelmso if you enabled chimaera repo, do something like apt install firefox-esr/chimaera and see what apt says18:23
FatPhilI'm apparently on beowulf, I have no idea why I'm on 102.20:57
FatPhildeb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-backports main contrib non-free ? or maybe  ... -updates ...20:58
FatPhilbut yes, going back to 91 would be great.20:58
FatPhil(sorry about lag - it's sauna night, so I'm not at the computer)20:58
FatPhilit looks like aptitude lets me just downgrade with one click!22:02
FatPhiland it's absolutely wizzy!22:18
FatPhilprogress is a terrible thing22:18
FatPhilunfortunately I\ve lost my profile - it doesn't let you downgrade22:20
brocashelmi hardly touch firefox these days and just main on pale moon or librewolf (i know it's the same, but it runs smoother imo)22:33

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