libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2023-05-08

hiddenerwhat's causing the dhcpdiscover delay at boot if cable unplugged? not sure when it appeared, after upgrade to daedalus or after netplugd install11:29
hiddenerthere's also a Setting up ALSA...warning: 'alsactl -E HOME=/run/alsa -E XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/alsa/runtime restore' failed with error message 'alsa-lib main.c:1541...11:37
hiddeneralsa works after boot, but what does it try to restore?11:38
rrqthe alsa note comes from alsa-utils (init script) trying to restore saved mixer levels ... from /var/lib/alsa/asound.state I think11:51
rrqthe net issue might be you using ifupdown with an "allow-hotplug eth0" declaration, which makes it want to establish network durinh the initrd boot phase11:54
rrq... or some other eason for it wanting network established during boot11:56
hiddeneryes, I had 'allow-hotplug eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces, no delays without it12:42
hiddenerthanks!12:43
hiddenerbut how do I fix that alsactl warning?12:44
hiddeneris it fixable?12:44
rrqtry "alsactl store"  when the mixer controls are good12:59
rrqas root13:00
hiddenerit saved the levels, but still trying to restore at boot13:14
buZzrestoring shouldnt fail13:30
buZzwhats the error?13:30
buZzyou posted > error message 'alsa-lib main.c:1541...13:31
buZzwhats the full error? :)13:31
hiddenererror: failed to import hw:29 use case configuration -2 ... done13:33
buZzhw:29? :D thats a lot of soundcards13:33
buZzhiddener: i bet the asound.state has something about hw:29 inside? which you seemingly no longer have13:34
buZzyou could try renaming the file to something _asound._astate to prevent it getting loaded13:34
buZzthen reboot twice, and see if the error disappeared (and file got remade)13:35
rrqthere is something iffy with alsa's use cases config; that error is not fatal13:39
buZzyeah the output line started with 'warning'13:41
buZzrrq: but, imho -likely- that this user doesnt have ~30 soundcards hooked to pc ;)13:42
onefangConsidering my graphics card has six all by itself, though only four physical outputs, nothing would surprise me.13:44
hiddenerno hw:29 in asound.state, but this ssd was in a different machine before...13:44
hiddeneri will try to rename and reboot13:44
rrqit might need alsa-ucm-conf to be installed; I think that use case mgmt has been separated out recently and might have missed somthing13:46
hiddenerwarning still there :) renamed asound.state and it was remade after reboot14:04
hiddeneralsa-ucm-conf is already installed14:04
rrqagree with that :)14:28
rrqoops .. pls ignore14:28
rrqhiddener: line 55 in /usr/share/alsa/ucm2/ucm.conf has a double $$ ? like: "$${sys:$KernelModulPath}"14:30
rrq(whole handfull of straws here :)14:31
rrq( "$${sys:$KernelModulePath}" )14:32
hiddenerline 91 and 92 has Define.KernelModulePath and Define.KernelModule, and yes it has double $$14:40
rrqright. ok. I'm on chimaera14:44
rrqmaybe just ignore the warning while waiting for better advice...14:48
hiddenerthank you, rrq15:24
adaNewb1234Hello, I'm trying to do something with rpcgen, but the generated files give me a page full of linkage errors (undefined reference to xdr_{u_{int,char},enum,vector,array,string}). The package that gave me the header does give a .so file, but -l<that filename without the lib or .so> doesn't help.15:47
adaNewb1234Anyone have any advice?15:48
rrq"The package" .. which package?16:01
adaNewb1234The package that gave me rpc/rpc.h Let me find it again...16:03
adaNewb1234libntirpc-dev16:04
rrqsome xdr_u_ are resolved by librpcsvc.a from libc6-dev16:09
rrqand libtirpc.so or libtirpc.a seems to be right16:23
rrqas you may know, the command "nm library.a" or "nm -D lilbrary.so" will list the symbols of the library16:27
rrqsnd symbol type T indicates implemented functions16:28
adaNewb1234  nm -D /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libntirpc.so does list "0000000000029140 T xdr_u_int@@NTIRPC_3.4", but it's still an undefined reference with -lntirpc. Ditto -ltirpc.17:12
puddingheadhi22:46
puddingheadit's been a while since i last talked on here22:46
gnarfacestill a quiet channel, but ask any questions you have and they'll be answered eventually22:47
puddingheadyeah22:55
puddingheadi mostly want to ask how to use the mailing list22:55
puddingheadi read that golinux wanted someone else to take over for the devuan website stuff and wanted to ask him if i could do it, but when i sent my e-mail it turned out it could not be delivered22:56
puddingheadthat and i sincerely just dont know how to use a mailing list22:56
* fluffywolf grumbles something about sexism in the free software scene22:58
fsmithredif you just joined the mailing list, you might still be in moderation. I think that's a thing because we have a few repeat-offender trolls22:59
fsmithredgolinux is logged in. She's probably off doing something else and will eventually reply.23:01
xisopchimera live iso su issue is fixed on x86-6423:17
xisop(desktop live iso)23:18
xisopchimaera desktop-live i386 su issue fixed23:28
systemdleteone of my systems is prompting me to update debian-installer.   Do I really need this package?  It appears to be /usr/share/doc stuff, and I'd like to eliminate any packages add to having to update the system.23:28
systemdlete*that add to...23:29
systemdleteapt depends debian-installer doesn't seem to indicate any dependencies, so can I safely remove it?23:32
djphit's documentation for .... I guess being a debian maintainer23:41
puddinghead@fsmithred i actually have been on it for months, just never posted23:42
puddingheadand thanks for telling me! sorry for messing up pronouns btw23:43
systemdletedjph:  Sounds like I can purge it23:46
djphsystemdlete: looks like.  I don't have it here23:47
systemdleteI don't seem to have it on other devuan systems here, just this one, for some reason.23:47
systemdleteI have an mx-linux system here that is constantly pinging me to update its numerous mx installer packages... that is what I am trying hard to avoid.    If I don't need it, if it is not a dependency of something required by the system or my own work, I'd rather it be gone.23:49
systemdleteI do note, however, that the package description says "Devuan's debian installer" -- so I get the impression that this is something that devuan's devs have touched somehow.23:51
systemdleteIt's a strange name for this package; I'd expect it to be more like debian-installer-doc, or better yet, devuan-debian-installer-doc23:52
rrqyes you don't need debian-installer23:56
systemdleteIt's gone now.23:56
systemdleteI do not recall having requested it.23:56
systemdleteNot sure why I would, actually.23:57

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