rustyaxe | daedalus has 6.1.0-7 last i was near real internet and updated | 00:47 |
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AlexLikeRock | where can change the name of my device-USB-wifi ? | 06:21 |
AlexLikeRock | wlx00e04cb66705 to wlan3 | 06:22 |
rrq | first: mv /lib/udev/rules.d/73-usb-net-by-mac.rules{,.OFF} | 06:57 |
rrq | then: 75-persistent-net-generator.rules.OFF | 06:58 |
rrq | I meant, then: mv /lib/udev/rules.d/75-persistent-net-generator.rules{,.OFF} | 06:58 |
rrq | and then: mv /lib/udev/rules.d/80-net-name-slot.rules{,.OFF} | 06:59 |
rrq | that might do the thing on next reboot | 06:59 |
youni | hello! why do some usb-sticks are mounted automatically, but others that i parted and made filesystem are not mounted automatically ? | 12:29 |
youni | please, how to automount usb sticks fat32 ? | 12:31 |
djph | only thing that comes to mind youni is a usev ruld | 12:32 |
djph | *udev | 12:32 |
djph | *rule | 12:32 |
djph | but that shouldn't care about filesystem type | 12:32 |
youni | i added powersave rule to /etc/udev/rules.d/50_usb_power_save.rules: | 12:34 |
youni | #all other devices | 12:34 |
youni | ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="auto" | 12:34 |
youni | do i need remove this rule ? | 12:34 |
djph | dunno, I don't bother with automounting, but as I understand things, udev is involved there. | 12:35 |
onefang | Might be more than one partition on the USB, or different partition table type. Just a wild guess though. | 12:36 |
youni | yes, there is DOS table | 12:36 |
youni | but i also tried to make GPT table and linux partition type and make filesystem ext4. but also is not mounting | 12:37 |
djph | dmesg have any info when you plug it in? | 12:37 |
youni | https://ibb.co/vVsZYCY | 12:39 |
youni | commenting out this line and reboot made all my usb (gpt and dos tables) are parted automatically | 12:51 |
youni | #ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="auto" | 12:51 |
youni | and i think i reminded why i added that line. Now all these devices appeared in the left side in pcman: https://ibb.co/0BTmTXD | 12:53 |
youni | Could you advise how to prevent pcman show all my partitions in left panel ? | 12:53 |
youni2 | Sorry they are shown anyways | 12:59 |
hacksenwerk | Hello. After installing slim or lightdm the mouse is frozen and keyboard does not respond. Is there some input package missing? | 14:20 |
hacksenwerk | I installe xserver-xorg-core that brings some packages with it and the driver for my video card. | 14:21 |
hacksenwerk | Also xserver-xorg-input-mouse and xserver-xorg-input-kbd | 14:21 |
hacksenwerk | Shouldn't that be enough? | 14:21 |
hacksenwerk | x11-xserver-utils Is also installed. | 14:24 |
hacksenwerk | slim pops up, lightdm pops up... just input does not work.. I don't know... What is missing? | 14:25 |
rrq | install xserver-xorg | 15:08 |
gnarface | hacksenwerk: make sure you're in the input group | 15:52 |
gnarface | you probably want to be in the video group too | 15:52 |
gnarface | though if you can even see the mouse that suggests you shouldn't have to do either of those things but i dunno for sure | 15:52 |
gnarface | oh, unless you were already in the video group but forgot to also add the input group | 15:52 |
hacksenwerk | gnarface: Oh right the groups! | 15:55 |
hacksenwerk | Thank you I will try that. | 15:55 |
gnarface | i probably should have mentioned the audio group as well | 15:57 |
pourpre__ | Hi | 16:30 |
pourpre__ | OK, be it my girlfriend's pseudonym. | 16:31 |
pourpre__ | So, I've been blocked while trying to create an account in dev1galaxy.org | 16:31 |
pourpre__ | My pseudonym is Ion and I last time I tried was a few minute ago, I also tried 2 times with TOR something like 2 days ago, I don't remember. | 16:32 |
pourpre__ | * and last time | 16:35 |
gnarface | We have a problem with spammers, pourpre__, stand by for assistance. (you may have to be patient, this is a slow channel) | 16:35 |
gnarface | golinux: ^ | 16:35 |
gnarface | pourpre__: meanwhile, if you have a question you can just ask it here too. | 16:36 |
pourpre__ | OK, I'm using my girlfriend's computer now, I hope it will be done before she comes back. | 16:36 |
pourpre__ | Well, I've got problem installing gnuinos, I think it will be easier to speak about it in the forum. | 16:37 |
gnarface | very well | 16:38 |
hacksenwerk | gnarface: I added the user to the group input but that doesn't help... | 16:54 |
gnarface | hacksenwerk: that's strange. do you have the xserver-xorg package installed? someone else suggested to try that. | 16:55 |
hacksenwerk | I installed the xserver as minimal as possible, only core and stuff | 16:57 |
fsmithred | pourpre__, try again now, please. You should be able to register. | 16:58 |
fsmithred | xserver-xorg-input-libinput which would be included in xserver-xorg that was suggested earlier. | 16:59 |
pourpre__ | OK, I'm going to try again. | 17:01 |
gnarface | hacksenwerk, fsmithred i think you will often need xserver-xorg-input-evdev too | 17:02 |
gnarface | and xserver-xorg-input-kbd too for that matter, no? | 17:02 |
hacksenwerk | gnarface: the last one I have | 17:02 |
pourpre__ | It still doesn't work. | 17:03 |
gnarface | hacksenwerk: xserver-xorg-input-all might be a better choice, since it would include all of them, but i can see not wanting xserver-xorg-input-wacom for example if you're never gonna use it, but these packages take so little space i think it's not worth trying to debug them piecemeal | 17:03 |
fsmithred | wow, sorry pourpre__. I thought it would work. | 17:03 |
pourpre__ | No problem. | 17:04 |
hacksenwerk | gnarface: I see. I will test them tomorrow. Thank you all! :) | 17:04 |
fsmithred | pourpre__, please try again. I did something different this time. If it still doesn't work, I'll get someone to tell me exactly how to do it. | 17:05 |
pourpre__ | OK. | 17:05 |
pourpre__ | It still doesn't work. | 17:06 |
fsmithred | ok, golinux can help. I expect she'll be around soon. | 17:07 |
fsmithred | I'm going outside. bbl. | 17:08 |
pourpre__ | OK, maybe see you latter fsmithred. | 17:09 |
hacksenwerk | Bye. | 17:37 |
golinux | pourpre__: Can you hop on the PM I opened? | 18:54 |
pourpre__ | Hi golinux, OK. | 18:57 |
pourpre__ | Bye all. | 19:22 |
nparafe | so ... this happened when I tried to create an account at the forum: "Unfortunately it looks like your request is spam. If you feel this is a mistake, please direct any inquiries to the forum administrator at IRC #devuan at irc.libera.chat" | 20:14 |
golinux | I can help you but in a metting now | 20:16 |
golinux | meeting really | 20:16 |
golinux | May be up to an hour | 20:16 |
nparafe | I do not think I can stay until then, so I will try again tommorow. Thank for offering to help. :) | 20:19 |
nparafe | Thanks* | 20:19 |
systemdlete | I'm having trouble getting apt-listchanges to work--it still isn't showing me the changelogs for updated packages. | 22:50 |
systemdlete | I surfed around and found a few articles, but I could not get mine to work like theirs. | 22:51 |
systemdlete | Is this broken on Devuan, or have I missed something? | 22:51 |
gnarface | hmm, vaguely rings a bell | 22:51 |
systemdlete | hi gnarface! | 22:52 |
gnarface | fsmithred, do you remember about apt-listchanges? | 22:52 |
systemdlete | It would be really neat to have this feature | 22:52 |
gnarface | check and see if it works on one of the devuan-forked packages | 22:52 |
systemdlete | suggestion, please? | 22:53 |
gnarface | i recall there being something wrong with it, but it's not clear... like maybe amprolla sabotages it or something? | 22:53 |
systemdlete | example of a forked package (sorry I am not too familiar with this) | 22:54 |
systemdlete | ? | 22:54 |
gnarface | oh, run "dpkg -l |grep devuan" or just browsed the /devuan directory of the repos with a web browser | 22:54 |
gnarface | the devaun-forked packages all have "devuan" in the version string, and on the repos they are in the /devuan directory | 22:55 |
systemdlete | oh, ok | 22:55 |
gnarface | (debian packages, served by http-redirect, are in the /debian directory, and /merged is a virtual directory showing the contents of both combined) | 22:56 |
gnarface | my guess was just that if it's amprolla breaking it, then it might only break the packages that are being served by http redirect | 22:56 |
systemdlete | I tried apt install udisks2, but it immediately proceeds to install without displaying changelogs | 22:56 |
gnarface | hmm, isn't that expected behavior though? | 22:57 |
gnarface | i guess maybe i'm not 100% clear on exactly how apt-listchanges works | 22:57 |
systemdlete | actually, apt reinstall because I don't have udisks2 installed | 22:57 |
gnarface | you know the change logs are still in /usr/share/doc/[package name] right? | 22:57 |
systemdlete | well, when apt-listchanges is installed, if one has the right apt-listchanges.conf fu, it should display the changelogs | 22:58 |
gnarface | oh, it displays them whenever you install a package? | 22:58 |
systemdlete | this is for packages to be installed, not those already installed | 22:58 |
RhineDevil^ | Does someone have networkmanager incorrectly believing it is connected to a wifi network while it isn't? | 22:58 |
systemdlete | I think so, per the descriptions | 22:58 |
RhineDevil^ | Had this problem for quite some time but never figured out how to fix that | 22:58 |
gnarface | RhineDevil^: i have not seen that but i don't use it much, however the problems i have had lead me to two possible solutions to a number of problems: 1) uninstall avahi-daemon 2) make sure it's not actually just the DNS servers that are broken (check the network using ip addresses only) | 23:00 |
gnarface | if you can ping your wifi router by IP then wifi is connected | 23:00 |
gnarface | that's not all there is to making network work though | 23:01 |
gnarface | you need to have valid DNS servers and a valid route out | 23:01 |
RhineDevil^ | gnarface: I already checked with ping | 23:01 |
RhineDevil^ | I was seeing the network-manager "connected" icon but ping answered no network available | 23:02 |
gnarface | hmm, it also has a directory it caches wifi configs in. you might have a corrupted one and you can just delete it and start over | 23:02 |
gnarface | honestly, how much to you relocate? network-manager is often more trouble than it's worth if you're only ever connecting to the same wifi router | 23:03 |
fsmithred | gnarface, I've never had to do anything with apt-listchanges beyond installing it | 23:05 |
systemdlete | oh, wait. Now it is working. | 23:06 |
* systemdlete headslaps himself | 23:06 | |
gnarface | fsmithred: oh, i thought i remembered there being a problem with it of some sort in the last year, sorry to bug you | 23:06 |
fsmithred | yeah, there was a problem reading the descriptions of forked packages, and I think that got fixed | 23:06 |
gnarface | ok | 23:06 |
systemdlete | I see my problem. It actually ends up asking twice if I want to continue. | 23:07 |
systemdlete | Which is stupid. | 23:07 |
systemdlete | But that is apparently how it works. | 23:07 |
gnarface | RhineDevil^: is this a constant problem, or does it actually work sometimes? | 23:07 |
fsmithred | RhineDevil^, I've seen where n-m says it's connected when it isn't and isn't connected when it is. But that was long ago on debian and the problem was that I was also using /etc/network/interfaces for the same interface. | 23:11 |
RhineDevil^ | gnarface: constant problem | 23:11 |
RhineDevil^ | The weird part is that sometimes it detects it, sometimes it doesn't | 23:12 |
n4dir | i sure do remember all kind of network-managers getting "confused" if another one was installed and running or (not that sure bout that) if the interfaces files "acts" too (contains configuration). | 23:14 |
gnarface | RhineDevil^: do you also have entries in /etc/network/interfaces? | 23:22 |
RhineDevil | gnarface: I do, but not any wifi ones | 23:26 |
RhineDevil | I only have a virtual network I use for containers and stuff | 23:27 |
RhineDevil | And which I told NetworkManager expressely in its conf file to ignore | 23:27 |
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