libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2023-05-17

aitor_brocashelm: `touch /etc/sv/dhclient/down`00:24
nyrxHow in-sync is Devuan with upstream Debian packaging? I'm concerned about a lack of updates and want a better understanding of how updates reach Devuan. For example, are packages that don't depend on systemd automatically "merged" in?22:01
n4dirnyrx: not that much in it, but i think what you search for is "Amprolla", and the link there gives a bit of an explanation: https://www.devuan.org/os/development22:04
n4dirthe link meaning: you click on "Amprolla", and get to the explanation at the forum22:04
n4diri hope this helps until someone can give you more specific details22:05
gnarfacenyrx: i can give you a quick run-down: most the packages aren't even forked, so they're available immediately and served to the package manager direct from debian servers, transparently by http redirect (by amprolla)22:06
gnarfacefor the forked packages, there's typically only a couple hours delay limited only by the amount of automated build hardware devuan owns22:07
gnarfaceif you want more authoritative answers, talk to fsmithred22:07
golinuxnyrx: Here you go.  Katolaz' presentation from the first Devuan Conference:22:09
golinuxhttps://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=319222:09
golinuxAnd in case you are wondering . . . these are the banned packages:22:12
golinuxhttps://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.22:13
gnarface** https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt22:14
nyrxThanks all for the quick info.22:20
gnarfacewe know there's a lot of FUD floating around out there22:20
gnarfacethanks for being one of the few who's smart enough to ask for yourself22:21
gnarfacespread the word22:21
golinuxgnarface: Thanks for catching the typo22:39
gnarfacenp22:40

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