| rrq | ah it's in the "load components" dialog | 00:09 |
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| fsmithred | brocashelm, I don't know if that is intentional. I noticed the same thing a few days ago. | 00:33 |
| darwin | is there devbootstrap? | 08:18 |
| gnarface | darwin: the version of debootstrap in devuan's repos will work with devuan | 08:20 |
| gnarface | (and as far as i know it should still run on debian) | 08:27 |
| darwin | it said: W: Couldn't download package initscripts (ver 2.96-7+devuan2 arch all) at http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/s/sysvinit/initscripts_2.96-7+devuan2_all.deb | 08:39 |
| brocashelm | it downloads for me | 08:43 |
| brocashelm | do you have a spare pc with a working internet connection that you could download that file on, transfer to a device like usb, and then transfer it over to the target pc to run with dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb? | 08:43 |
| gnarface | yea, downloads for me too | 08:45 |
| gnarface | darwin: cannot reproduce your issue, but that deb.devuan.org domain is actually a DNS round-robin, so maybe you just got bad luck and hit a downed or updating repo, try it again and it should work | 08:45 |
| onefang | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html isn't reporting any down or recently updating deb.devuan.org mirrors. | 08:47 |
| gnarface | well it could be a routing issue between darwin and whichever server it hit first too | 08:49 |
| darwin | so I have to do the whole thing over again after it's done in some hours? | 08:55 |
| darwin | you also have to make changes to it for it to work with Devuan | 08:56 |
| gnarface | you mean you have to make some changes for it to work with debian? | 08:57 |
| gnarface | do what over again after it's done in some hours? | 08:57 |
| gnarface | what's your status currently? do you have the devuan debootstrap now running on a debian system? | 08:58 |
| darwin | i didn't say that | 08:58 |
| gnarface | i'm trying to understand what you are saying | 08:58 |
| darwin | i haven't used Debian since about 2000 | 08:58 |
| gnarface | what are you actually trying to do? maybe i assumed the wrong thing from the start. | 08:59 |
| darwin | you have to make changes to debootstrap for it to work with Devuan--otherwise it downloads Devuan | 08:59 |
| darwin | i mean otherwise it downloads Debian | 08:59 |
| darwin | to get Devuan you have to make some changes | 08:59 |
| gnarface | i don't think that's actually true | 08:59 |
| gnarface | it will default to using your system sources.list but you should be able to pass a repo url on the command-line | 09:00 |
| gnarface | last i heard, the debian version would download any debian derivative except devaun, but the devuan version will download any of them | 09:00 |
| darwin | that's why I asked for it in the first place | 09:01 |
| darwin | i was told to: cd /usr/share/deboostrap/scripts | 09:02 |
| darwin | rm ceres; wget https://git.devuan.org/devuan/debootstrap/raw/branch/suites/beowulf-proposed-updates/scripts/ceres; ln -s ceres chimaera; debootstrap --arch amd64 chimaera /mnt/devuan http://deb.devuan.org/merged/ chimaera | 09:02 |
| darwin | i don't have a sources.list | 09:02 |
| darwin | it worked now | 09:02 |
| darwin | does adding devuan to the installer script in amdgpu-install_5.5.50500-1_all.deb make the drivers work on Devuan (like they do on other Debian/Ubuntu variants) or do these depend on systemd? | 09:15 |
| darwin | the source is AMD (though they changed a lot of the drivers to Free/Libre Software in ROCm): http://repo.radeon.com/amdgpu-install/latest/ubuntu/jammy/amdgpu-install_5.5.50500-1_all.deb | 09:16 |
| gnarface | darwin: no, but please stop trying to shoehorn non-devuan packages into devuan unnecessarily. that package is in the devaun repos already. | 09:18 |
| gnarface | darwin: note that starting with current testing (daedalus) it's in "non-free-firmware" instead of "non-free" but this change mirrors debian | 09:19 |
| darwin | i see | 09:19 |
| darwin | i'm not trying to shoehorn packages, but if it's already there seems that doesn't apply | 09:20 |
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