| ErRandir | So the netinstall ISO I mentioned yesterday does a boot from CDROM, not a network install. More work to do there I guess. Using pxelinux.0 from chimaera worked fine. | 10:49 |
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| ErRandir | I'll have a look at the server ISO next. | 10:50 |
| phogg | netinst means it pulls packages from the net rather than the disc, it doesn't mean network boot | 11:50 |
| jonadab | Right, PXE boot is an entirely separate issue from the type of installer. | 14:24 |
| jonadab | I actually thought about setting up an LTSP server at one point, and PXE booting our OPAC kiosks at work. But when I looked into it closely, our operation is too small for it to be worth it. A shame, because I would've liked getting the terminal-server experience. | 14:25 |
| jonadab | So our PAC kiosks are still repurposed old PCs. | 14:26 |
| x__ | dear devuan community. how to install the newer kernel version for Chimaera? | 15:10 |
| x__ | shall i try the backport sourcelist of debian or there is a devuan way? need driver for the wifi card of the laptop | 15:11 |
| debdog | x__: first thing coming to my mind, upgradeing to Daedalus | 15:14 |
| x__ | how? | 15:15 |
| gnarface | x__: there's a chimaera-backports you can use, but daedalus is mostly finished so it's probably safe to upgrade | 15:15 |
| gnarface | both solutions work the same way as debian but with devuan sources | 15:16 |
| x__ | gnarface, what is the command to run for a dist-upgrade. do i need to change sources.list as well? | 15:16 |
| x__ | I hope to upgrade to Daedalus | 15:17 |
| gnarface | like i said, neither the command nor the sources.list file works differently from debian, the only thing different is the urls in the sources.list | 15:17 |
| debdog | x__: like that but replace Chimaera with Daedalus: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/upgrade-to-chimaera | 15:18 |
| x__ | got it. thank you | 15:18 |
| debdog | one more thing: bring your Chimaera up-to-date first | 15:18 |
| x__ | ok. for chimaera, what is the line in sources.list for security update? I manually modify my .list file and don't know what is the code for security update | 15:20 |
| buZz | there is no security updates for daedalus yet. afaik | 15:21 |
| gnarface | it doesn't error if you put it in though: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-security main | 15:21 |
| gnarface | you'll want this one too: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus-updates main | 15:21 |
| x__ | can you post your sources.list for chimaera? currently this is the only line I have in the .list file: deb http://tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net/devuan/merged chimaera main non-free contrib | 15:22 |
| x__ | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main | 15:23 |
| x__ | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-updates main | 15:23 |
| x__ | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera-security main | 15:23 |
| gnarface | just those last 3 lines | 15:24 |
| x__ | so just these 3 lines should be suffice. thanks. | 15:24 |
| onefang | Not a good idea to mix mirror servers like that. | 15:26 |
| gnarface | x__: https://paste.debian.net/1287968/ | 15:28 |
| x__ | @onefang, you mean just use one server? just did it. @gnarface in future I will paste to the address | 15:38 |
| gnarface | x__: yes, he means don't use multiple repo hostnames at the same time | 15:39 |
| onefang | Correct. | 15:39 |
| onefang | Coz they update at different times, so you'll get inconsistent results. | 15:40 |
| gnarface | deb.devuan.org is a dns round-robin of all of them, so just use that for now. if you have occasional trouble retry. if you have lots of trouble frequently only then consider using one particular mirror by name | 15:40 |
| x__ | I see. here is the updated sources.list https://paste.debian.net/1287969/ obviously daedalus-upgrades does not work. so I will do dist-ugrade and that shall do it? | 15:41 |
| x__ | gnarface, deb.devuan.org is way too slow. | 15:41 |
| gnarface | like i said, it's a dns round-robin, so it won't be the same speed if you just retry | 15:42 |
| gnarface | i don't know if that mirror url is right though that you're using | 15:42 |
| gnarface | and it's "daedalus-updates" | 15:43 |
| gnarface | not daedalus-upgrades, that's why that one failed on you | 15:43 |
| onefang | tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net is one of our package mirrors that's in the DNS-RR. | 15:43 |
| gnarface | onefang: is it supposed to be /devuan/merged though? | 15:43 |
| gnarface | i thought it was just supposed to be /merged on all of them | 15:43 |
| onefang | Some have their Devuan mirror at /devun/ coz they might have other things, like other mirrors, or ISO mirrors, etc. | 15:44 |
| onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt is good for that sort of thing, it says tw1.mirror.blendbyte.net/devuan then you add /merged | 15:45 |
| x__ | gnarface, I don't know what is dns-rr. I tried a few mirror urls and found that fastest one. | 15:48 |
| onefang | It might be closest to you. | 15:48 |
| x__ | glad you guys helped. I resisted the urge to try mint linux just to use the wifi card. | 15:50 |
| buZz | which wifi chip is it? | 15:50 |
| x__ | mediatek.7961 | 15:51 |
| gnarface | x__: i see you put non-free in your sources, you probably want to add non-free-firmware too | 15:52 |
| gnarface | they added a new section as of this release | 15:52 |
| x__ | by the way, the netinstall has btrfs-progs packed, but the live cd for chimaera does not have it. | 15:52 |
| gnarface | (then they moved all the drivers in there) | 15:52 |
| x__ | @gnarface, that will be new line or I just append to the main contrib line? | 15:53 |
| gnarface | just append | 15:53 |
| gnarface | instead of "main contrib non-free" you would put "main contrib non-free non-free-firmware" on every line | 15:53 |
| gnarface | they moved all the drivers into non-free-firmware for some reason | 15:54 |
| gnarface | (this is a change from debian) | 15:54 |
| gnarface | (to be clear, i mean debian did this to us) | 15:54 |
| x__ | like this? https://paste.debian.net/1287970/ | 15:55 |
| gnarface | no | 15:55 |
| gnarface | line #2 still says daedalus-upgrades instead of daedalus-updates | 15:56 |
| x__ | OK. | 15:57 |
| x__ | dist-upgrade seemed to be successful, with new sources.list and other software, however, uname -a still shows 5.10 kernel | 17:03 |
| x__ | do i need to run a special command to install kernel? | 17:04 |
| x__ | 5.10.0-9-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.70-1 (2021-09-30) x86_64 GNU/Linux | 17:05 |
| x__ | 17:05 | |
| gnarface | install linux-image-amd64 and linux-headers-amd64, then it'll update automatically next time | 17:05 |
| x__ | understood. thank you. | 17:06 |
| gnarface | you might only need linux-image-amd64, it depends on which drivers you're using | 17:07 |
| gnarface | it won't hurt to have both though | 17:08 |
| Xenguy | Better to have both I think | 17:08 |
| x__ | gnarface, by the way, about the mirror url, dns-rr, for example, when installing devuan, you mean if I interrupt the install, and try again, it will pick a faster mirror? | 17:09 |
| EHeM | Security issue: Unstable has linux-source-6.1, version 6.1.38-1, but Debian has 6.1.38-2 (and I wouldn't expect that to be delayed). | 23:42 |
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