| xrogaan | Did devuan sync with debian repos broke? We should have a new firefox-esr security version. | 03:56 |
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| xrogaan | mmh, maybe a problem upstream though. | 03:56 |
| onefang | I just upgraded my firefox-esr on chimaera this morning. Worked fine. | 04:07 |
| xrogaan | I'm on daedalus | 04:08 |
| xrogaan | still 102.14 in the repo | 04:08 |
| onefang | What I got this morning is - firefox-esr (102.15.0esr-1~deb11u1) bullseye-security | 04:09 |
| onefang | So might be a problem upstream. | 04:09 |
| ManinTheSandbox | Version: 102.14.0esr-1~deb12u1 | 04:10 |
| ManinTheSandbox | Version: 102.13.0esr-1~deb12u1 | 04:10 |
| onefang | https://www.debian.org/security/2023/dsa-5485 | 04:11 |
| onefang | "For the stable distribution (bookworm), these problems have been fixed in version 102.15.0esr-1~deb12u1." | 04:11 |
| xrogaan | yes | 04:11 |
| xrogaan | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr | 04:11 |
| onefang | I'm in the middle of searching for a new home right now, so I'll leave it up to others to dig deeper. | 04:12 |
| ManinTheSandbox | just patch it | 04:13 |
| xrogaan | upstream repo has the updated firefox though. | 04:13 |
| ManinTheSandbox | there isnt the source osf 102.15. | 04:19 |
| ManinTheSandbox | got it | 04:21 |
| xrogaan | was just the repo not being synced yet | 08:20 |
| onefang | Which repo? Debians, or one of ours? | 08:41 |
| xrogaan | devuan's | 09:09 |
| onefang | Do you know which of our servers it was? | 09:28 |
| onefang | Coz it might be something I should look at, being our repo mirror herder. | 09:28 |
| xrogaan | no clue | 10:36 |
| xrogaan | onefang: Though, aren't the syncing done at specific time? The security push was done less than 24h before I checked. | 10:37 |
| xrogaan | Packages.gz updates around 5am (server time) | 10:38 |
| onefang | The package mirrors are supposed to sync every 30 minutes, but some take an hour or three. And as I mentioned before, I had already updated firefox-esr for my chimaera desktop, from my own package mirror, earlier this morning, hours before you said it wasn't updating. | 11:06 |
| onefang | So if it was one of the deb.devuan.org RR mirrors, which is likely since you have no clue which one, I tend to remove them from the RR if they do not update every 30 minutes. And I test that with apt-panopticon. | 11:08 |
| al1r4d | Hmm | 11:08 |
| onefang | Found a new home, let's hope I don't have to move a third time this year. lol | 11:11 |
| onefang | So I'll be busy actually moving. then I can get back to working hard on Devuan stuff. | 11:12 |
| xrogaan | onefang: at that point, a mobile home would become a serious option :P | 11:24 |
| simon_adebisi | Hi, I am using OpenRC Devuan 5.0, how can I setup power plan on laptop to perfomance? Cause I am getting 800 mhz on battery, which makes laptop slow | 15:10 |
| ManinTheSandbox1 | searched on forum? | 15:17 |
| ManinTheSandbox1 | search engines' | 15:17 |
| ManinTheSandbox1 | ? | 15:17 |
| simon_adebisi | Yeah, the best Idea I came up with was cpusethigh: aliased to echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor | 15:23 |
| simon_adebisi | And same command for powersave | 15:23 |
| simon_adebisi | I meant same alias, just was used to a widget and mouseclick on opensuse at work | 15:27 |
| gnarface | simon_adebisi: graphical widgets for that would be window-manager specific | 15:40 |
| gnarface | (possibly an optional package you just need to install) | 15:41 |
| gnarface | personally i prefer the shell script approach though, because the graphical widgets never seem to do exactly what i want | 15:41 |
| gnarface | if you're using the same window manager you were on opensuse, there's a good chance you can enable the same functionality just by figuring out which package you're missing | 15:42 |
| gnarface | if you're in doubt, try just installing the "task-laptop" package | 15:43 |
| gnarface | if you just want to solve the immediate problem with your shell command only having max or min speeds, try using "ondemand" or "schedutil" for the scaling_governor | 15:45 |
| gnarface | (ondemand was the old default, schedutil is the new one) | 15:45 |
| gnarface | those two are actually scaling governors in the literal sense | 15:46 |
| gnarface | "performance" and "powersave" just lock it to max or min, obviously | 15:46 |
| gnarface | not great for laptop use | 15:46 |
| simon_adebisi | I have task-laptop package. Scaling governor supports only powersave and perfomance commands. But thanks for help | 15:49 |
| gnarface | simon_adebisi: it supports whatever modules you load. modprobe cpufreq_ondemand to enable ondemand | 15:51 |
| gnarface | to be clear, "modprobe cpufreq_ondemand" as root or with sudo, or just add it to /etc/modules and reboot | 15:52 |
| gnarface | (it's default behavior is still a little conservative for my taste, but it can be tuned with other variables in that same /sys directory) | 15:52 |
| simon_adebisi | Ok, lets try | 15:53 |
| gnarface | i think i was using something like this before: | 15:53 |
| gnarface | echo -n 15 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold | 15:53 |
| gnarface | echo -n 100 > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/sampling_down_factor | 15:53 |
| gnarface | but ymmv | 15:53 |
| gnarface | (setting up_threshold lower than 15 didn't work for me on that hardware) | 15:54 |
| gnarface | if you say what window manager you're using, maybe someone who knows it well can help you locate the graphical widget you're missing | 15:55 |
| gnarface | i know that comes up a lot for xfce but it's in the repos somewhere, i just don't know exactly where | 15:55 |
| simon_adebisi | Well, not insisting on graphic solution | 15:57 |
| gnarface | simon_adebisi: any luck? | 16:11 |
| gnarface | fyi if you want to lock it to a specific speed that's neither the min or max speed you can use the cpufreq_userspace module | 16:12 |
| gnarface | (that will also allow you to use something like powernowd to control it too) | 16:13 |
| simon_adebisi | Added to modprobe schedutil. it works as I wanted. Somehow powersave locks deadly to 800 mhz | 16:14 |
| simon_adebisi | I can also try to disable intel_pstate and change it to acpi | 16:15 |
| simon_adebisi | thanks gnarface | 16:16 |
| gnarface | no problem | 16:17 |
| gnarface | ah, yea intel_pstate is some conflicting implementation, also newer. some people report it works better for certain hardware, but that doesn't always seem to be the case | 16:18 |
| gnarface | that's the expected behavior for powersave though | 16:19 |
| gnarface | it just locks it at whatever your minimum supported speed is | 16:19 |
| braincat | [ | 20:48 |
| Guest11 | Is devuan beather then salix? | 21:40 |
| djph | sure. | 21:43 |
| gnarface | they're already gone | 21:43 |
| maskerino | hello | 23:25 |
| debdog | ahoy! | 23:27 |
| maskerino | oh wow it's working | 23:27 |
| maskerino | :D | 23:27 |
| maskerino | Is here the place to get help with weird apt-get warnings? | 23:28 |
| maskerino | new to IRC in general | 23:28 |
| debdog | maskerino: just ask! you're at the right place | 23:28 |
| debdog | but be patient, sometimes it takes time to get a reply | 23:29 |
| maskerino | great! When I run sudo apt update, I get the error: `stable InRelease (expected stable but got daedalus)` | 23:29 |
| maskerino | for many many sources it gives me that warning | 23:29 |
| maskerino | i edited sources.list to replace all the mentions of 'devuan' with 'stable' just on a hunch but that didn't work. | 23:30 |
| debdog | maskerino: please paste the content of your sources.list on https://paste.debian.net/ | 23:32 |
| maskerino | ok one sec | 23:33 |
| maskerino | http://paste.debian.net/1290614/ | 23:33 |
| debdog | I never used stable in my sources list and do not know how to deal with exactly. esp. now that stable changed from chimaera to daedalus. just wait for someone else to chime in | 23:36 |
| maskerino | i changed it from daedalus to stable | 23:36 |
| maskerino | and the error was the same when it was daedalus | 23:36 |
| golinux | Not a good idea to use "stable" in your sources.list . Read bottom of this page: https://www.devuan.org/os/releases | 23:36 |
| maskerino | yeah i wasn't, but the error was the same, i changed it to stable as a hunch. but it didn't work. | 23:36 |
| maskerino | just changed it back to 'daedalus' to confirm. Error remains | 23:37 |
| maskerino | http://paste.debian.net/1290615/ | 23:38 |
| golinux | non-free also still exists if you might need it | 23:44 |
| maskerino | what would that do? For close source? I see some source links in the warnings that I know are open source. | 23:45 |
| maskerino | I changed the sources.list to say 'oldstable' just to see, and the warnings are still identical | 23:46 |
| golinux | Just wanted to make sure you knew it still existed. | 23:46 |
| maskerino | i didn't. I don't know what that is | 23:46 |
| maskerino | ok i found the info on 'non-free' i'll try that | 23:47 |
| maskerino | it's free as in libre right not free as in paid? | 23:48 |
| debdog | non-free as in closed source. | 23:50 |
| maskerino | yeah | 23:50 |
| maskerino | it didn't work | 23:50 |
| debdog | maskerino: is this a fresh daedalus installation or upgraded from chimaera? | 23:50 |
| maskerino | identical error | 23:50 |
| maskerino | it's fresh | 23:51 |
| maskerino | it's like 2 weeks old | 23:51 |
| maskerino | how can i test that the sources.list is actually properly being updated | 23:51 |
| maskerino | like what can I put in there that will give me some definitive change. | 23:51 |
| maskerino | i commented everything out and still the same error | 23:52 |
| debdog | and what made you put "stable" in there instead of daedalus? | 23:52 |
| maskerino | i just had a hunch. It didn't do anything. The error was the same before i changed it and after i changed it back | 23:53 |
| debdog | oh | 23:53 |
| rwp | maskerino, Run "apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update" so accept the InRelease change. | 23:53 |
| rwp | This is a relatively recent (last release or so) change in behavior which now requires that if the suite is changed. | 23:54 |
| maskerino | that didn't change anything either | 23:54 |
| rwp | There was previous discussion on this topic around http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/libera/_devuan/_devuan.2023-08-27.log.html#t2023-08-27T20:29:16 | 23:55 |
| maskerino | i even commented out everything in sources.list and nothing helped | 23:55 |
| maskerino | > you must have started this install before daedalus was marked stable | 23:56 |
| maskerino | that was kinda my hunch yeah | 23:56 |
| maskerino | how do i fix | 23:56 |
| rwp | maskerino, Run "apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update" so accept the InRelease change. | 23:56 |
| maskerino | > you must have started this install before daedalus was marked stable | 23:56 |
| maskerino | yeah i tried that but it didn't work. i'll try again | 23:57 |
| rwp | Please re-state the problem you are seeing again please. | 23:57 |
| maskerino | everytime i do apt update, i get a bunch of warnings saying 'stable InRelease (expected stable but got daedalus)' | 23:58 |
| maskerino | like i said I also tried commenting the entire source.list out, and it still has the same warning | 23:59 |
| maskerino | so i think it is reading another source.list somewhere? idk. | 23:59 |
| rwp | Hmm... "apt-get --allow-releaseinfo-change update" and "apt-get update" should fix that problem. | 23:59 |
| maskerino | i've been using the nala apt frontend | 23:59 |
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