libera/#devuan/ Wednesday, 2023-09-13

systemdleteThis is really minor, but I am trying to find a way to reboot after an install completes AND eject the install medium.   Istr that some distro installs 20 years ago had problems doing this, and you had to do it manually.  I find that even after unmunting all the affected file systems, I can eject (with -F) the install medium and get no errors, but (and not surprisingly I think) then reboot or00:00
systemdleteshutdown complain about I/O errors.  Yeah, that makes sense given the install medium is missing then.00:00
systemdleteAgain, this is not a have-to, just a N2H if possible.00:00
systemdlete(I guess I could poke around the scripts and C sources to find out, but maybe you all know how this is done.)00:01
systemdlete(And sorry in advance if I missed that part of some man page or the like)00:01
gnarfaceso it reboots then seeks the install medium again?00:09
gnarfaceor seeks it while shutting down to reboot?00:09
gnarfacei'm wondering if it's just because you've got the cdrom in your sources.list00:09
systemdleteno    I want to reboot, ejecting the install medium, so it does NOT reboot into the install ISO again.00:09
systemdleteIOW, I want to reboot into the installed partition after my install completes.00:10
systemdlete(I think there may need some secret sauce to do this.)00:11
systemdleteI've been scouring the web trying to find a relevant article about this, but I think most distros have been doing this successfully for  a long time, so not finding hits.00:12
systemdletegnarface, on a somewhat related note... that cacher we set up works well.  But tbh, it hasn't really put much of a dent in the overall install time.  Most of the time spent seems to be the unpacking, preparing, copying, setting up, etc of the packages.00:13
systemdletebut still, this is saving the devuan mirrors a lot of unnecessary traffic, so I am happy for that.00:14
systemdleteand the retrieval is much faster, I can see that.  It's local.00:14
systemdletes/web/ddg/00:16
gnarfaceunfortunately i don't really know of any tricks to speed up the unpacking and configuring steps except just give it more cpu cores, more ram, and a faster disk00:16
gnarfacefaster disk will go a long way actually00:16
systemdleteI get so used to duckduckgo that I forget about other search engines out there.00:16
systemdletegnarface, yeah.  That's OK.00:17
systemdleteThis is one of the reasons I like to install a "template" VM that can be cloned as needed.00:17
systemdletesaves time later on00:17
systemdletemy disks are 5400 mostly.  I think I have one that is 720000:18
gnarfaceyea, that's a bottleneck00:18
systemdleteI could try changing the buffering settings during the install and switching them back when it is done.00:18
systemdleteHave the host do the buffering.00:18
systemdleteNormally I like to have VMs do their own buffering to help ensure data integrity.   But if the install fails, no biggie, just restart it.00:21
systemdleteWell, I guess I'll have another crack at the OP problem, maybe using google this time.00:22
systemdleteheheheh.  Found a hit from 2010 re ubuntu, but might be helpful.  Seems there is a "eject/noeject" option for the linux command line... still today even?00:27
systemdletehmmm.00:27
systemdletetoram!00:33
systemdletejeepers00:33
systemdletethis, after knocking my brains out for days00:33
systemdleteI didn't realize what "toram" was for... I really thought it had something to with TOR lol00:34
systemdlete(not sure what I was thinking... maybe someone wants to secretly install linux in peace and not get caught by the systemd police?)00:35
rrqsystemdlete: does your vm not use 'accel=kvm'? (fully emulated cpu is slow)02:52
systemdleterrq:  Not sure.   I know that the selected hypervisor is kvm though02:54
systemdlete(might not be the same thing as you are saying, idk)02:54
systemdlete is that a linux kernel boot option?02:55
rrqdepends a bit on the qemu version; newer ones want accel=kvm in the -M parameters, like "-M pc,accel=kvm"02:56
systemdleteat any rate, it looks like the "toram" option is what I need.02:56
systemdletevirtualbox here.02:56
systemdlete:(02:56
rrqok. I don't know that to be changed (or how it's set up)02:56
systemdleteit's ok.  thank you anyway.02:57
systemdleteappreciate it when people respond02:57
rrqdocs talk about 'Enable Nested Paging' in the acceleration tab of system settings03:00
systemdleteand I have that set03:01
xisophas anyone had any luck running devuan in a vm on the mac m2?03:02
xisopi'm not too worried about how stripped down the install is, if it has to be. just trying to see if it's been pulled off in any capacity03:03
xisopalso, is it possible to run devuan on a raspberry pi 4?03:04
gnarfacexisop: dunno about the mac m2, but yes to the rpi4, see http://arm-files.devuan.org/ and #devuan-arm03:06
xisopohhh... very nice03:07
xisopthat is awesome!03:07
u-amarsh04silly question, I held libgudev-1.0-0 at 237-2 due to 238-2 breaking things with eudev18:10
u-amarsh04Today, I finally did: [UPGRADE] libgudev-1.0-0:amd64 237-2 -> 238-2 and everything still worked18:10
u-amarsh04It appears that eudev 3.2.12-2 or later actually fixed compatibility with gudev-1.0-0 238-2 but I'm not sure18:13
gnarfaceu-amarsh04: i don't see an actual question in there20:53
yann-kaeligu-amarsh04: What a funny coincidence I just finished building eudev-3.2.14 and libgudev-238 on Gentoo21:08
yann-kaeligu-amarsh04: Do you have some notes on how to build it from source on Devuan.  I would like to test it too.21:12
bUst4gr0whttps://www.twitch.tv/otplol_23:12
golinuxRandom links are inappropriate here23:14

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