| Necrodiver | gnarface: dxvk? if i used that, how would it have worked? | 00:25 |
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| Necrodiver | ill delete gamescope and use it because screw wayland | 00:25 |
| gnarface | Necrodiver: uh, basically you use use winetricks to install the dxvk package into your wine prefix, and as long as your linux video drivers have good vulkan support, anything using native directX should get a significant performance boost, but i've noticed it also seems to help with compatibility | 00:28 |
| Necrodiver | okay hold on lemme find it in winetricks | 00:28 |
| gnarface | YMMV, but it's helped a lot for the stuff i've tested, both with NVidia and AMD video cards | 00:28 |
| Necrodiver | i use amd | 00:28 |
| Necrodiver | rx550x | 00:28 |
| gnarface | though, that said, the window stretching thing you seem to think you need wayland for, i'm pretty sure any decent compositing window manager could do it with Xorg too, it's just more about how wayland devs setup this as the default behavior | 00:29 |
| Necrodiver | for dvxk, is it set a new wineprefix? | 00:30 |
| Necrodiver | or set default | 00:30 |
| gnarface | well you use whichever wineprefix you want, use the existing one or make a new one (i make a new one for every game, and i recommend that generally) | 00:31 |
| gnarface | the winetricks script obeys the WINEPREFIX environment variable the same way wine does | 00:31 |
| Necrodiver | dxvk has tons of options | 00:31 |
| gnarface | wincfg and all the wine tools obey WINEPREFIX afaik | 00:31 |
| gnarface | you don't need to mess with dxvk options | 00:31 |
| gnarface | where did you even find dxvk options? i don't recall seeing any... are you trying to compile it? | 00:32 |
| Necrodiver | no, i opened winetricks and when to set new prefix | 00:32 |
| Necrodiver | went to^ | 00:32 |
| gnarface | OH, you're using the zenity gui for winetricks, aren't you? | 00:32 |
| gnarface | i've never even touched that | 00:32 |
| Necrodiver | oh | 00:33 |
| Necrodiver | i typed winetricks in terminal | 00:33 |
| Necrodiver | and it just opened the gui | 00:33 |
| gnarface | you just pass the package name on the command-line to winetricks and the default option is to install it | 00:34 |
| gnarface | i don't even have zenity installed so the gui fails for me | 00:34 |
| gnarface | WINEPREFIX="..." sh ./winetricks dxvk | 00:34 |
| Necrodiver | thats the command i should run? | 00:35 |
| gnarface | well, substitute your actual wineprefix path for "..." obviously | 00:36 |
| gnarface | or if you're just using ~/.wine the default should be fine | 00:36 |
| gnarface | but like i said, i'd recommend separate prefixes for every game because sometimes a winetricks you need for one breaks others | 00:36 |
| Necrodiver | well actually wait, i deleted wayland | 00:37 |
| Necrodiver | and gamescope | 00:37 |
| Necrodiver | so let me run a game and see what happens | 00:37 |
| gnarface | in Xorg this time? which window manager? | 00:38 |
| Necrodiver | im in xfce so it SHOULD be xfwm4 | 00:39 |
| Necrodiver | but this pc i locked xfce4 in version 4.12 | 00:39 |
| Necrodiver | because i wanted to use the gtk2 version | 00:39 |
| gnarface | i don't actually know how to force fullscreen in that one but i presume it's possible | 00:40 |
| Necrodiver | yeah im not sure either because its older | 00:41 |
| Necrodiver | i COULD remove the pinning from etc/ppt/preferences.d | 00:41 |
| Necrodiver | apt^ | 00:41 |
| gnarface | see what F11 does first | 00:42 |
| Necrodiver | okay first let me set my winecfg to be a bigger screen | 00:42 |
| Necrodiver | hmm thats weird | 00:43 |
| gnarface | if F11 doesn't do anything, try looking in the window border's right-click menu or try "alt+rightclick" on the middle of the window area | 00:43 |
| gnarface | i've been using enlightenment for so long i know very little of the location of controls for other window managers | 00:44 |
| Necrodiver | yeah window manager is xfwm4 | 00:45 |
| Necrodiver | i wonder if it was openbox if it would work better | 00:45 |
| gnarface | i couldn't say for sure, but if you're desperate there's always enlightenment... | 00:46 |
| Necrodiver | can enlightenment do what i want it to do? | 00:46 |
| Necrodiver | btw the winehq chat advice was to do all this: https://askubuntu.com/posts/16761/revisions | 00:47 |
| gnarface | as far as i know, assuming my hypothesis about your issue is even correct. if you're bored it might be fun to try either way. it's a fully compositing window manager and it "Should™" behave identically on wayland and xorg | 00:48 |
| Necrodiver | oh thats right, for openbox it needs a separate compositor | 00:49 |
| Necrodiver | btw when i open the game i get this message: | 00:50 |
| Necrodiver | 010c:err:system:update_display_cache Failed to read display config. | 00:50 |
| gnarface | well, one thing at a time | 00:53 |
| Necrodiver | yeah | 00:53 |
| gnarface | first you have to verify some way to toggle arbitrary windows into fullscreen mode | 00:53 |
| gnarface | then in theory the wine virtual desktop should be able to handle the rest | 00:54 |
| Necrodiver | i tried doing both the right click and alt rick click, didnt work. | 00:54 |
| gnarface | nothing appears? no menu? | 00:54 |
| Necrodiver | the game starts up and everything | 00:54 |
| Necrodiver | it just doesnt expand to the full size of the virtual desktop settings | 00:54 |
| gnarface | is the game itself set in "fullscreen" mode in the in-game video configs? | 00:55 |
| Necrodiver | i did it in both window and fullscreen mode | 00:55 |
| gnarface | but you've gone about this by setting the virtual desktop size to a larger resolution | 00:56 |
| Necrodiver | okay when i did alt right click my mouse disappeared | 00:56 |
| gnarface | my suggestion was to set the virtual desktop size to the resolution the game seems stuck at, then use the window manager to stretch the entire wine window instead | 00:56 |
| Necrodiver | oh | 00:56 |
| Necrodiver | i need to shut the game off first now | 00:57 |
| Necrodiver | and i cant use the keyboard buttons to quit out of the game now | 00:57 |
| gnarface | you may need to start the game AFTER the wine window is stretched to make this work | 00:57 |
| Necrodiver | okay fixed it | 00:57 |
| gnarface | you'll also need the checkbox for "allow window manager to control the windows" set in winecfg | 00:57 |
| Necrodiver | yeah i have that set | 00:58 |
| gnarface | you probably also want to uncheck "allow wine to capture mouse in fullscreen windows" if you're having a problem with your mouse cursor getting stolen | 00:58 |
| Necrodiver | i turned off virtual desktop entirely | 00:58 |
| Necrodiver | i always leave that off | 00:58 |
| Necrodiver | okay i turned off the vd settings, wm controls windows is ready | 00:59 |
| Necrodiver | lets try this again | 00:59 |
| gnarface | you may or may not need the virtual desktop. it seems to help usually for me. the askubuntu link you gave is basically just command-line syntax for setting a virtual desktop | 00:59 |
| Necrodiver | okay so heres what happened | 01:00 |
| Necrodiver | when i let the window manager control it | 01:00 |
| Necrodiver | the particular game i was working with went into fullscreen mode fine | 01:01 |
| Necrodiver | when i set it to window, it dropped the reolution to 640x400 | 01:01 |
| Necrodiver | had to do into display settings and reset back to 1920/1080 | 01:01 |
| Necrodiver | lemme try a different game | 01:01 |
| gnarface | well, that is not only progress but it sounds exactly like expected behavior, like it did what you actually told it | 01:01 |
| gnarface | right? | 01:02 |
| Necrodiver | yeah | 01:02 |
| gnarface | ok, that's good | 01:02 |
| gnarface | that's normally supposed to work, but sometimes for certain poorly behaved games (world of warcraft and anything made by blizzard, often) the virtual desktop is necessary to work around bugs in its interpretation of "fullscreen" | 01:02 |
| gnarface | ...especially if you have 2 monitors | 01:03 |
| Necrodiver | i use one monitor | 01:03 |
| gnarface | so that's one less concern | 01:03 |
| Necrodiver | okay so now maybe i should set a virtual desktop to the size of the game | 01:05 |
| gnarface | only if the regular window isn't behaving as you wish | 01:05 |
| Necrodiver | when i quit out of the game, it automatically sets my display to 640x400 | 01:05 |
| Necrodiver | and i have to go back and fix it | 01:06 |
| gnarface | heh, i hate it when that happens | 01:06 |
| Necrodiver | is a vd the answer to that? | 01:06 |
| Necrodiver | because it seems like it might be | 01:06 |
| gnarface | in theory, yes | 01:06 |
| Necrodiver | okay so nope | 01:07 |
| Necrodiver | that didnt work | 01:08 |
| gnarface | what happened? | 01:08 |
| Necrodiver | same thing that happened before | 01:08 |
| Necrodiver | setting the vd to the size of the game kept the wine desktop the size of the game but going fullscreen did nothing | 01:09 |
| gnarface | what if you go fullscreen before launching the game? | 01:09 |
| Necrodiver | i was in fullscreen before launching it | 01:09 |
| Necrodiver | then switched to window, then back to fullscreen | 01:09 |
| gnarface | and the game is what... just not stretching to fit? | 01:09 |
| gnarface | it fills the window with black but the game stays in the top left corner? | 01:10 |
| gnarface | need more descriptive responses here | 01:10 |
| Necrodiver | so the window size doesnt change | 01:11 |
| Necrodiver | the game works fine, shows up and everything | 01:11 |
| Necrodiver | full sound and all | 01:12 |
| Necrodiver | maybe its due to my xfwm being older? | 01:12 |
| Necrodiver | because 4.12 probably didnt have the tools available to stretch the windows | 01:12 |
| gnarface | your guess is as good as mine | 01:13 |
| Necrodiver | maybe i should take off the apt pinning and go to 4.18 and see what happens | 01:13 |
| gnarface | could be video driver related too | 01:13 |
| Necrodiver | i installed vulkan | 01:13 |
| gnarface | you could even try forcing opengl mode like that askubuntu post suggests | 01:13 |
| gnarface | do you have the "firmware-amd-graphics" package installed? | 01:14 |
| Necrodiver | well i didnt install vulkan till i got gamescope. and yes i have the amd firmware package installed | 01:14 |
| gnarface | i've never used gamescope for anything | 01:15 |
| Necrodiver | my artix-using friend told me about it | 01:16 |
| Necrodiver | it DID work | 01:17 |
| gnarface | what broke it? | 01:17 |
| Necrodiver | i deleted gamescope | 01:17 |
| Necrodiver | lol | 01:17 |
| Necrodiver | so i could find a non-wayland way to fix this issue | 01:17 |
| gnarface | oh, hmmm | 01:18 |
| Necrodiver | lemme see if updating to like xfce 4.18 helps with this | 01:18 |
| Necrodiver | because it might | 01:19 |
| gnarface | i think enlightenment will do it but i really don't know for sure at this point | 01:24 |
| gnarface | maybe gamescope is worth it just because it works | 01:24 |
| oz4ga | I'm trying to do an upgrade from Chimara to Daedalus. It's vanilla install, so upgrade completed w.o. any other problems except some complaining about my keyrings. Should I keep my old one or install those the upgrade are using? | 01:24 |
| oz4ga | ie install the 2 new keyrings | 01:25 |
| Necrodiver | well lets see if i can do it without gamescope and updating to xfce 4.18 | 01:27 |
| Necrodiver | okay ill brb gonna restart since i updated | 01:28 |
| necrodiver | okay 4.18 looks weird lol | 01:31 |
| necrodiver | maybe im just to used to the old way | 01:31 |
| gnarface | it even changed your nickname | 01:32 |
| necrodiver | lol | 01:32 |
| gnarface | oz4ga: the keyring package upgrades from the official repo are probably safe | 01:32 |
| necrodiver | nah i use a different default nick in another server and hexchat likes to keep that nick so i change my nick for this server | 01:32 |
| necrodiver | i jsut didnt make it capital this time | 01:35 |
| necrodiver | and updating to 4.18 didnt help | 01:36 |
| necrodiver | still same issues. | 01:36 |
| necrodiver | probably gamescope is the best alternative | 01:36 |
| DelTomix | oz4ga: the upgrade should have brought in the new keyrings, definitely use the upgraded ones. what are the complaining messages? You said vanilla install so I presume you don't have any 3rd party repos in sources.list | 01:45 |
| gnarface | necrodiver: i can't be sure that's true but without testing the game in question myself there's very little i can add that i haven't already | 01:47 |
| gnarface | i do know that when it's game time, practical solutions are better than hypothetical ones though | 01:47 |
| necrodiver | gnarface: yeah, its one of those things that my newness to linux (3 or 4 years only) kinda hinders a lot of possible thoughts on solutions | 01:51 |
| necrodiver | havent had to mess with stuff like this before so | 01:52 |
| gnarface | are you getting decent framerates at least? | 01:54 |
| necrodiver | oh yeah all over 60fps | 01:56 |
| necrodiver | some of the older games its like 75 | 01:56 |
| gnarface | i would recommend vsync then, to make sure you don't burn out your video card | 01:56 |
| necrodiver | i keep an eye on my video card temps and things | 01:57 |
| necrodiver | always using sensors | 01:58 |
| necrodiver | most of these games are xp era, with one or two of them being compatible with 98 because they are so old lol | 01:58 |
| necrodiver | they arent like heavy resource games either | 01:59 |
| necrodiver | i think the largest of them was like 2gb of hdd space | 01:59 |
| spine-o-saurus | Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/excalibur/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 8h 35min 15s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. | 02:11 |
| spine-o-saurus | Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/excalibur/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 8h 35min 15s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. | 02:11 |
| spine-o-saurus | what does that mean when i try to update apt? | 02:11 |
| DelTomix | system clock in correct time zone? | 02:13 |
| spine-o-saurus | i set to localtime | 02:13 |
| DelTomix | it happened to me when I built a bootstrap, and booted on a system which didn't have a UTC system clock, the files were dated in the future | 02:14 |
| onefang | Any clue which actual mirror you got that error from? | 02:31 |
| onefang | Oh, they left. | 02:32 |
| Xenguy | Come on the channel, ask for help, then just exit, without as much as a goodbye or thank you | 03:00 |
| Xenguy | Okay | 03:00 |
| DelTomix | :) I was four characters away from pressing enter in the solution I typed :) | 03:01 |
| necrodiver | lol | 03:01 |
| gnarface | i just hope it was something like . o O (woops, my clock was wrong) /me exit in shame | 03:05 |
| gnarface | ... rather than just popping directly over to the ubuntu channel and telling them "i asked for help in #devuan but nobody was there" | 03:06 |
| DelTomix | it all comes out in the wash | 03:07 |
| onefang | Here's an odd one. I just moved house, the new place has shared WiFi with a different ISP than I've used before. ssh over IPv6 to my server works fine, but not over IP4. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/54130281/ssh-from-gitlab-ci-docker-fails-on-ssh2-msg-kex-ecdh-reply had the same problem, and the solution works for me. Now I'm wondering why. Coz there's other things with other protocols that are also not working, but niche things | 03:16 |
| onefang | with less chance of finding a solution on the Internet, and this only supports IPv4. | 03:16 |
| * onefang keeps poking. | 03:16 | |
| snorkcity | onefang, you mean the KexAlgorithms solution works for you? | 03:21 |
| onefang | Correct. | 03:24 |
| DRWhite | Hi folks, I've booted to the DVD but I can't boot to the local drive from the menu system. anyone able to help here please? | 03:24 |
| onefang | So the question is why would changing the key exchange algorithm make it work on IPv4? What is my new ISP doing that is making that fail otherwise? | 03:28 |
| DelTomix | Hi DRWhite - can you elaborate a bit ? which DVD image are you using? "boot to the local drive" - after installing? or an existing install? | 03:28 |
| rrq | onefang, last year I had problems where packets ~1470 bytes got lost/.. appeared related to ipv6/ipv4 packet translations | 03:29 |
| rrq | like when an pv6 packet pair maps to a single ip4 packet or v.v. | 03:30 |
| onefang | That screwed certain IPv4 things, but IPv6 stuff worked fine? Which certain IPv4 things? | 03:31 |
| onefang | Another datam - "traceroute -T" takes 3 hops, adding the ssh port takes 23. | 03:35 |
| * onefang tries other ports. | 03:35 | |
| DelTomix | maybe the router on the shared wifi is doing something funny? or isp has some odd transparent proxy/cache going on? | 03:38 |
| DRWhite | DelTomix , Devuan chimaera. | 03:38 |
| DRWhite | DelTomix , boots to DVD, I want to boot to lcoat drive | 03:38 |
| onefang | Might be, it's looking like the only things that go the short way are normal traceroute and web stuff. | 03:39 |
| DelTomix | if you eject dvd and reboot does it boot local drive? (not sure I understand yet) | 03:40 |
| DRWhite | I want to boot to local drive instead of the DVD, but I need it to first load the DVD menu. | 03:40 |
| DelTomix | oh hmm | 03:41 |
| DRWhite | So I want to exit the dvd menu, as other versions have a "boot to local drive" in their menu. | 03:41 |
| DRWhite | So if you do boot to DVD, then you can boot to the local drive instead | 03:41 |
| DelTomix | is this the "installer" image or the "live" image ? | 03:42 |
| onefang | Ah IPv6 web goes the long way. | 03:42 |
| DRWhite | If I get to the "boot:" prompt, I have no options, can't chainload, can't exit//quit, can't set root drive, can't boot.. no options exist in grub... | 03:42 |
| onefang | rrq: Did you manage to fix your routing problem? | 03:43 |
| rrq | it wasn't routing; it was an outgoing udp tunnel. but I think the actual problem turned up in an intermediate ipv6 bulk link .. so probably just a curiosity of no help to you | 03:44 |
| DRWhite | DelTomix Installer DVD. | 03:45 |
| DRWhite | DelTomix the live DVD isn't what I'm after as I need the installer DVD. | 03:45 |
| rrq | DRWhite: push TAB and edit the boot line | 03:46 |
| DRWhite | rrq But what do I put there? I have tried many things there and it just reverts it and doesn't boot it. | 03:47 |
| rrq | is this an EFI boot or a legacy boot? | 03:47 |
| DRWhite | I'm not using IBM. | 03:48 |
| DRWhite | Thus, Legacy. | 03:48 |
| DRWhite | I do have UEFI if needed, but I hate turning that shit on. | 03:49 |
| DRWhite | I just use BIOS | 03:49 |
| DRWhite | SeaBIOS to be precise | 03:50 |
| DRWhite | I don't use UEFI because I want to keep my system safe and secure. | 03:51 |
| rrq | the devuna installer does not have a commandline for chain loading | 03:52 |
| DRWhite | I just want to exit the DVD | 03:52 |
| rrq | not sure what that means. return to bios menu? | 03:55 |
| DRWhite | can't get the bios menu | 03:55 |
| DRWhite | I jsut need to exit the dvd menu and continue the boot process. | 03:56 |
| DRWhite | that is all I want and need. | 03:56 |
| DRWhite | a "continue" button | 03:56 |
| DRWhite | there has to be something like that built in. | 03:57 |
| DRWhite | if there isn't, then I don't know what 12 year old built the menu. | 03:57 |
| rrq | the boot process means to load a kernel and initrd | 03:58 |
| DRWhite | I want to exit grub on the DVD. | 03:58 |
| DRWhite | Simple | 03:58 |
| gnarface | did you try "rescue mode?" | 03:58 |
| rrq | there is no grub on the devuan installer. it uses syslinux. | 03:58 |
| DRWhite | Well that makes sense then. | 04:00 |
| hightower2 | Is it still that /usr/share/doc files over 4kB are gzipped, or the limit/threshold was changed at some point? | 09:07 |
| tr4nt | Hello everyone, im on devuan 15 and i've been trying to install wine32 for the past few hours, enabled 32bit arch, but apt kept asking me to remove most of system packages, how do i make it not? | 09:16 |
| tr4nt | thanks in advanced | 09:16 |
| rwp | hightower2, It's still documented as larger than 4k see: https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/debhelper/dh_compress.1.en.html | 09:21 |
| rwp | tr4nt, I don't know anything about wine but the latest released Devuan is 5 Daedalus and 6 is Excalibur Testing. Even Debian is only up to 13 Trixie Testing. | 09:23 |
| tr4nt | rwp, i actually meant devuan 5, thanks for letting me know | 09:26 |
| rwp | 5 whew! Stable. That's better. I was worried you were a time traveler from the future! :-) | 09:27 |
| rwp | Do you really need wine32? For something very old? I am pretty sure ms-windows is all 64 these days. So would need wine64 in that case. | 09:27 |
| tr4nt | there's this game that requires wine32 and the game's installation docs explicitly told me to install it, but it would be nice to run the game on wine64 somehow | 09:28 |
| rwp | I see this: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=wine32&x=submit | 09:29 |
| tr4nt | yes, but everytime i run that, apt wants to remove 99% of system packages | 09:29 |
| rwp | Can you copy what is happening to a pastebin? | 09:30 |
| rwp | I am not sure I have a 32-bit arch system to test this upon... | 09:31 |
| tr4nt | https://pastebin.pl/view/df2e12ed | 09:32 |
| tr4nt | mine is also 64 bit, but i enabled 32bit packages by doing dpkg --add-architecture | 09:32 |
| tr4nt | i had to use another pastebin alternative since for some reason i cant access it using my network | 09:33 |
| rwp | Hmm... I think the problem looks to me like something in multi-arch configuration on your system is not right. It's wanting to replace your 64-bit system with a 32-bit system. Instead of install 32-bit stuff beside your 64-bit stuff. | 09:34 |
| tr4nt | thats weird, this is a fresh install | 09:35 |
| tr4nt | of devuan 5 | 09:35 |
| rwp | Well... On a fresh install it would install only one arch normally 64-bit. You said you enabled 32-bit as well but I think something did not go right in that action. | 09:36 |
| rwp | I don't run any multi-arch systems myself and this is a little beyond me as to what might be needed to enable it. | 09:36 |
| tr4nt | if thats the case, i might aswell just dual-boot between 32bit and 64bit | 09:37 |
| tr4nt | thanks for the help | 09:37 |
| rwp | I really do not know one way or the other. Don't give up because I have no idea. Someone else will know a lot more about it than I. | 09:37 |
| rrq | one important point for multiatch is that the same-named packages of different arch must have the same version code | 09:40 |
| rwp | I read a little of https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO but it didn't really clue me into what might be a problem. | 09:40 |
| rrq | but installing a later i386 version does not automatically cause amd64 version upgrade.. | 09:41 |
| rwp | I have a devuan 4 chimaera system and ran install -s there and this is what I see: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1292665 | 09:42 |
| rwp | And that's all I know! And that it is past my bedtime. Good night all! | 09:43 |
| rrq | tr4nt: is your amd64 upgraded? | 09:43 |
| tr4nt | i dont know what that means, i just recently installed devuan 5 last night, first thing i ran was apt update and apt upgrade | 09:44 |
| tr4nt | amd64 version | 09:44 |
| rrq | ok, yes "apt upgrade" | 09:44 |
| tr4nt | yeah, it says all are updated | 09:47 |
| rrq | you may "force' apt to keep packages by mentioning them on the command line... makes for a rather long command line, but there seems to be some i386 package version that knocks out your amd64 desktop... | 09:47 |
| rrq | maybe start by adding "task-xfce-desktop" to the tentative install command | 09:48 |
| tr4nt | got it, i'll try | 09:49 |
| rrq | note, you have "--no-install-recommends" which is good but that also means that some further amd64 packages are "unsupported" wrt this install command | 09:50 |
| rrq | still, the REMOVED list should be shorter | 09:51 |
| gnarface | tr4nt: the main wine package points to wine64 and wine32, and it's safe to install them together even if you only want to use wine32; the arch is set by the WINEARCH environment variable, not which package you install. | 09:54 |
| gnarface | there shouldn't be any problems with installing both of them, and the only reason i'd expect it to be removing other packages would be if you installed them from a different distro or different release version | 09:55 |
| gnarface | the first thing i would question is if you accidentally used the i386 installer | 09:56 |
| tr4nt | gnarface, i tried to and kinda ruined my previous devuan 5, had to reinstall | 09:57 |
| gnarface | the second thing i would question is if you have 3rd party repos in there, ubuntu ppa's, deb-multimedia, backports, actual debian packages, etc | 09:57 |
| tr4nt | i only have the wine's bookworm repo in my sources.list | 10:00 |
| gnarface | anyway just set WINEARCH="win64" or WINEARCH="win32" and make sure you set it at prefix creation time | 10:00 |
| gnarface | https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Environment_variables | 10:00 |
| gnarface | https://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#Wineprefixes | 10:00 |
| tr4nt | https://wiki.winehq.org/Wine_User%27s_Guide#Environment_variables, so by apt install wine and set winearch to win32, it automatically supports 32bit applications? | 10:01 |
| gnarface | the winehq.org packages for bookworm should work fine as long as long as you don't mix them with the debian/devuan packages | 10:01 |
| gnarface | tr4nt: well, you still need to enable multiarch before you install wine, but yea then it will support both. it defaults to 64-bit | 10:02 |
| gnarface | tr4nt: a couple other notes about the winehq packages: when you create a wine prefix, 1) say NO to downloading mono, install mono from the devuan repo instead, and 2) say YES to downloading gecko/firefox | 10:04 |
| tr4nt | weird thing, the programe still asks me for wine32 | 10:05 |
| gnarface | you have to set WINEARCH="win32" at wine prefix creation time and every run afterwards | 10:05 |
| gnarface | and you just run it as "wine" not "wine64" | 10:06 |
| gnarface | if you already ran wine or any of the other wine* tools once without setting it, that means your default prefix at ~/.wine is 64-bit already. you can't change it, you need to make a new one. | 10:07 |
| gnarface | it makes a new one by default every time unless you set WINEPREFIX to one that's already created | 10:07 |
| gnarface | (obviously WINEPREFIX defaults to ~/.wine) | 10:07 |
| gnarface | follow me? | 10:07 |
| tr4nt | im not sure, i ran WINEARCH=win32 and then winecfg, this is what it returned | 10:08 |
| tr4nt | "it looks like wine32 is missing, you should install it. | 10:08 |
| tr4nt | as root, please execute "apt-get install wine32:i386" | 10:08 |
| tr4nt | wine: '/home/tr4nt/.wine' is a 32-bit installation, it cannot support 64-bit applications. | 10:08 |
| tr4nt | " | 10:08 |
| gnarface | first of all, what does this return? dpkg -l |grep wine | 10:09 |
| gnarface | you might get kicked for flooding, so just /msg it to me | 10:09 |
| tr4nt | https://paste.debian.net/plain/1292671 | 10:09 |
| gnarface | secondly, you would run it like this: WINEARCH=win32 winecfg | 10:10 |
| gnarface | as ONE command, not two | 10:10 |
| tr4nt | yep i did just that | 10:10 |
| tr4nt | following the wiki | 10:10 |
| tr4nt | my apologies if my statements were not clear | 10:10 |
| gnarface | you have to remove the old ~/.wine though first or it won't help | 10:10 |
| gnarface | alright, oy vey absolutely not | 10:11 |
| gnarface | your dpkg -l output is completely wrong, where the hell did those packages really come from? those aren't the winehq ones and you're missing some | 10:11 |
| gnarface | plus they're too old for bookworm | 10:11 |
| tr4nt | grapejuice is the game im tryign to make it run | 10:11 |
| tr4nt | hmm thats weird | 10:12 |
| gnarface | well here's the deal, you're definitely missing the 32-bit ones | 10:12 |
| gnarface | it suggests you didn't actually have multi-arch enabled when you installed this | 10:12 |
| gnarface | maybe i'm wrong about them being too old for bookworm, maybe those are the ones currently in daedalus, but they're definitely NOT the winehq.org ones, which would have "bookworm" in the version string literally | 10:13 |
| gnarface | but you should at least have ONE that's got i386 for arch | 10:14 |
| tr4nt | oh my bad, i kinda messed up between my old devuan and new devuan, this one doesnt have winehq.org, hmmd do i uninstall the current wines, add winehq.org and do wine install again? | 10:14 |
| gnarface | well, this might work if you just enable multi-arch and install wine32 | 10:14 |
| gnarface | but yes, if you want to switch to the winehq.org ones make sure you remove all these first | 10:15 |
| tr4nt | is it weird for winehq repo to not show up in sources.list after adding it? | 10:18 |
| gnarface | well i hope tr4nt figured out they changed the gpg key | 11:25 |
| tr4nt | i could install wine32 just fine on devuan 4 without any problems at all | 12:35 |
| Necrodiver | hey gnarface | 13:40 |
| Necrodiver | are you awake? | 13:40 |
| Necrodiver | i just checked something out of curiosity since i was thinking of reinstalling wine | 13:44 |
| Necrodiver | i just noticed that i switched to daedalus for stable devuan, but my wine was running on developmental | 13:50 |
| Necrodiver | that would definitely cause problems | 13:50 |
| Necrodiver | so i deleted and reinstalled stable | 13:50 |
| Necrodiver | okay now i got this fixed for the most part | 13:54 |
| Necrodiver | so now wine works much better now, no issues at all | 14:30 |
| Necrodiver | still wish i could resize the windows but at least i can do full screen with all of the games | 14:30 |
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