libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2023-12-07

systemdleteEnough with systemd--I want MY system back!   This morning, I went to wake up one of my boxes, which hosts daedalus and was running xscreensaver.  It locked up.  So I opened a console and discovered xscreensaver running, along with a child--xscreensaver-systemd!00:35
systemdleteIs there no end to this disease?00:35
systemdleteI killed off both processes and I was able to reach my system again00:36
systemdlete(desktop, i.e.)00:36
systemdleteI never want to see anything with that crap running in my system.00:37
systemdleteI realize there is probably next to nothing that anyone here can do, but this really ticks me off and I had to say something.00:38
rwpThat will be 5 cents for the therapy session.00:45
systemdleteok Lucy00:45
* rwp laughs00:46
* systemdlete laughs too00:46
* debdog lols – 5 ct for one therapy session.. someone omitted several zeros there00:54
rwpdebdog, It's a reference to this: https://peanuts.fandom.com/wiki/Lucy%27s_psychiatry_booth01:16
debdogrwp: I get it! Lucy that sneaky biadch01:28
debdogJust watching "A Charlie Brown Christmas (1965)" right now.01:29
debdoghaha Charlie: "What's pantophobia?" Lucy: "The fear of everything."01:31
systemdletesystemdephobia--the fear that the 5 eyes are using exploits in your system software to spy on you01:31
masonSee, I don't see systemd as spyware at all. It's just poorly written and designed badly.02:35
phoggits design offends me deeply02:55
nemosystemdlete: heh. I would hope that the fine folks here at devuan stubbed out that process (the xscreensaver one)02:57
al1r4dhello all~07:18
xinomilomorning all, is amprolla stuck?07:39
xinomilohavent seen ceres updates for a few days..07:39
Besnik_bdjph, I first chose expert mode, without knowing the pros and cons, and then changed my mind when it asked for IP to configure my connection. Done automatically for ten or fifteen years, I forgot about this step and skipped this mode of installation. I would have skipped neints as well, if it asked for IP and such.08:57
Besnik_bBut the point here is that the installation script does not explain clearly the options. I did what I did purely in a “try and test” mode, not in any “informed choices” mode.08:59
djphBesnik_b: huh?11:08
Besnik_bdjph, related to “<djph> brocashelm: netinst, and then you're set :P”11:09
djphBesnik_b: that happens to be the least amount of software (IIRC, even devoid of a DE.) It's to be read as completely tongue-in-cheek to their earlier comments11:13
monsieurhi11:30
systemdletenemo, nope.  It is still part of xscreensaver.18:34
systemdletemason, phogg:  I was not implying that it is spyware.  I did refer to potential exploits in it...18:35
masonOh, alright, yeah. Re-reading what you wrote, I can see that now.18:36
al1r4dToday i will use Chromium browser on my laptop (only).. sad23:33
al1r4dOf course devuan23:33
nemousing some chromium-only app?23:41
al1r4dUsually, I open chart graphics, and Firefox has worse performance than Chrome.23:42
nemoal1r4d: huh... seems to behave pretty well here, but on linux that can depend on a lot of things23:55
nemoand ofc if you're using google's stuff, they often tend to build in anti-firefox behaviour..23:55
nemoal1r4d: what does about:support in firefox say you are using for Graphics?23:55

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