| gnu_srs1 | Hello, an update on usrmerge madness: These packages are found to be needed forking (so far): Please help to update this list. | 00:00 |
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| gnu_srs1 | https://paste.debian.net/1303950/ | 00:00 |
| rustyaxe | usrmerge sucks the donkeys dangly bits :( | 00:07 |
| n4dir | i don't hear about such problems in #debian. But then: they have a channel for -next | 00:11 |
| n4dir | do they have the same problems? | 00:11 |
| eyalroz | golinux: Oh, it's the merge of /usr/foo into /foo ? I see... | 00:24 |
| eyalroz | gnu_srs1: Update it how? | 00:25 |
| eyalroz | Also, it's always better to mention my name, as it makes me switch back to the IRC client much faster... | 00:26 |
| eyalroz | golinux: Also - it's the "testing" distribution, it's not supposed to be on the edge :-( | 00:39 |
| eyalroz | Anyway, about that firmware business: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1480917/ | 00:39 |
| golinux | This particular cycle test is a bit like ju,mping off a cliff | 00:41 |
| golinux | testing | 00:42 |
| brocashelm | it's basically like jumping off a cliff and making sure your organs are all over the place when you "land" | 00:47 |
| brocashelm | unstable is like death by firing squad | 00:48 |
| brocashelm | choose wisely | 00:48 |
| eyalroz | brocashelm: I like your Freudian slip there. | 00:48 |
| eyalroz | s/are all/are not all/ ... | 00:48 |
| eyalroz | Anyway, like in life/politics, I'm "testing" things which should happen rather than sticking to the mainstream; and complain when they're broken, so as to fix them and replace what's currently prevalent. | 00:49 |
| brocashelm | i think unstable would be the less bad route in that use case | 00:52 |
| brocashelm | things get fixed sooner in unstable, whereas testing requires waiting up to 10-14 days for migration | 00:52 |
| brocashelm | (seriously, we need a #devuan-next channel!!!!) | 00:52 |
| rustyaxe | I sorted that mess with this but ymmv # for i in /lib/udev/rules.d/*; do x=$(basename $i); if [ -f /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/$x ]; then sudo rm $i; fi; done; for i in /lib/udev/hwdb.d/*; do x=$(basename $i); if [ -f /usr/lib/udev/hwdb.d/$x ]; then sudo rm $i; fi; done | 01:07 |
| rustyaxe | ymmv, standard warranty applies - if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces. If there are more than two pieces, please return them for product improvement purposes! | 01:08 |
| rtn0 | hi all | 03:35 |
| rtn0 | it is my understanding that there are 3 different levels (possibly more) of realtime-ness: high-latency kernels, low-latency kernels, and then real-time low-latency kernels (fastest of all). is this accurate? or are there more? | 03:36 |
| rtn0 | i asked on #kernel, too. haven't gotten a direct response to this q yet. | 03:36 |
| rtn0 | another q: what kernel did the devteam of Devuan use? I have heard that Devuan (and also Debian) uses a high-latency kernel which is not adequate for use with DAWs. is that true? | 03:37 |
| rtn0 | if so, is the only solution to re-compile my kernel? (note: I'm hesitant to do that, cuz I'm still a semi-noob). | 03:38 |
| n4dir_ | rtn0: was it you asking about kernels and the DAW? | 03:43 |
| rtn0 | yeah | 03:45 |
| n4dir_ | rtn0: ok. First things first: i sure don't know. | 03:45 |
| n4dir_ | some claim you need a realtime kernel for audio-production, still | 03:46 |
| n4dir_ | some claim, that is from the past, it is not needed anymore | 03:46 |
| n4dir_ | i do easy things, and sure can use just a default kernel | 03:46 |
| n4dir_ | but, the main point, there is a real-time kernel, or even several, in the repos | 03:46 |
| n4dir_ | so this way or that way: no need to compile it yourself | 03:46 |
| rtn0 | oh! | 03:47 |
| rtn0 | thanks for explaining that! | 03:47 |
| rtn0 | ok. i wil have to push it to its limits and find out for sure then. guess i should have done that to begin with, instead of spamming channels with dumb questions. :p | 03:47 |
| n4dir_ | as said: such is beyond my knowledge I only told you what i ran in over the last 3 years, regarding that question | 03:47 |
| rtn0 | im still new to Devuan, Debian, the tty, and linux in general. | 03:48 |
| n4dir_ | nah, as said, some say this, some say that, it was good asking | 03:48 |
| rtn0 | ok thx agn | 03:48 |
| n4dir_ | yeah, good luck and fun and all. | 03:48 |
| rtn0 | imma apt-cache search it... i already have schismtracker but that isn't exactly a DAW per say. | 03:48 |
| n4dir_ | on another note: i do use the librazik repos, which kinda work on devuan, but i can't install all packages. And it is still old-stable. | 03:49 |
| n4dir_ | their rt-kernels you should be able to use too, also on stable, but not sure | 03:49 |
| n4dir_ | as far i can tell the most decent repo DAW is really ardour | 03:49 |
| rtn0 | awesome. this helps clarity some. I'll let you know what I find. Imma go push ardour to its limits. o/ | 03:50 |
| rtn0 | now i know what to apt-get install. :) | 03:50 |
| n4dir_ | many like lmms, rosegarden qtracktor and stuff to me are anything but intuitive | 03:51 |
| n4dir_ | there really is a lot of audio-production stuff in the devuan repos. For more there is either librazik (take care with it) or KX STudio repos | 03:52 |
| n4dir_ | i got to run, see you . | 03:53 |
| rtn0 | oh yeaaaaaaaaaaah! I forgot that ardour was an x11-only program! *doh* | 04:13 |
| rtn0 | I'm on linux server. | 04:13 |
| rtn0 | Imma have to do that test at a ltr time. *doh* | 04:14 |
| rtn0 | thanks tho. | 04:14 |
| rtn0 | once i get x11 up and running, imma try it. thanks agn. gn all o/ | 04:14 |
| al1r4d | My devuan testing was broken | 08:43 |
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