| ra331 | Hi guys!! Here's a question | 11:51 |
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| ra331 | Have a need to install whatsapp, but need systemd to install snapd, but since it is missing from devuan, what are the options to install whatsapp desktop as whatsDesk app. | 11:51 |
| ra331 | Flatpack also depends on systemd? | 11:51 |
| ra331 | Please suggest the best option considering open sourse. | 11:51 |
| ra331 | I have deadalus 5. | 11:51 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there is no official whatsapp support for linux. I am sure there would be one of the third party options available without snap or flatpak. | 12:20 |
| ra331 | what are the options without snap and flatpak? | 13:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | If open source projects will usually have a git, possibly it's got a .deb pacakged. Or try other projects. if you use pidgin that has a plugin from what I recall. | 13:14 |
| al1r4d | ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯ you can use whatsapp web buddy ra331 | 13:17 |
| al1r4d | You dont need *insert electron wa web app* | 13:17 |
| al1r4d | also, flatpak doesnt depends on systemd | 13:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | seem whatsdesk is python so maybe pip | 13:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | seems | 13:18 |
| ra331 | I don't use Whatsapp often, but here I need to contact someone via video call on a big screen, so I was considering jitsi. | 13:27 |
| ra331 | I think whatsapp is the easiest to use. | 13:27 |
| ra331 | I will try installing Whatsdesk, thanks for the tips. | 13:27 |
| onefang | Jitsi works fine, we use it for the regular Devuan meetings. | 13:28 |
| ra331 | ok | 13:30 |
| ra331 | is there a contact or number to check, my system says the camera is busy with another app, but the diode is only lit on the jitsi site. | 13:37 |
| cousin_luigi | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e884cb53/ this happens every few days. The network goes down and I have to reboot. | 17:44 |
| cousin_luigi | Could it be a driver problem? Same card did work properly on a different machine. | 17:44 |
| cousin_luigi | Perhaps I could try without firmware. | 17:49 |
| cousin_luigi | It still works... | 17:54 |
| gnarface | cousin_luigi: hard to say, but i've seen that soft lockup thing caused by a buggy bios feature for power management before called "c1e" powersaving, i think | 19:07 |
| gnarface | the network going down might just be a side effect of that cpu soft lockup | 19:08 |
| gnarface | kernel could affect it, load could affect it (it only happened under relatively high disk i/o for me) but i'd check for that bios setting too | 19:09 |
| cousin_luigi | gnarface: hmm, I have indeed changed the powersaving thing | 19:23 |
| cousin_luigi | changing the governor to powersave, that is. If that's the case, perhaps I should just set that one back. Will find out in about a week. | 19:24 |
| cousin_luigi | gnarface: Bios does have some setting about powersaving, unsure if linux can use it though. | 19:25 |
| gnarface | it was only that one bios feature "c1e powersaving" that was causing it in my case, and it wasn't contributing more than a couple watts worth of power saving, so i was fine with disabling it | 19:25 |
| gnarface | the other bios power saving settings and the various kernel cpu frequency drivers all were fine after disabling c1e | 19:26 |
| gnarface | i've heard some vague stuff about intel_pstate preempting the traditional cpufreq stuff and causing problems too though, not sure if it causes this type of trouble, but also worth checking perhaps | 19:27 |
| nemo | gnarface: maybe if more of dmesg was posted could see if there was any power management stuff before the lockup | 20:17 |
| cousin_luigi | gnarface: It's amd anyway. | 20:53 |
| cousin_luigi | nemo: Nothing of the sort from what I can tell. All daemon logs about cron and dnsmasq. | 20:55 |
| nemo | I've had intermittent, with this CPU, errors of the form: | 21:41 |
| nemo | kernel:[456360.602728] [Hardware Error]: CPU:1 (19:21:2) MC19_STATUS[Over|-|-|AddrV|PCC|-|UECC|Deferred|-|-]: 0xc748b2eb0011ffa4 | 21:41 |
| nemo | they happen like once every month or two. Most recent on Dec 6th. No soft lockup, but I do wonder if that depends on what the kernel detects or the CPU supports | 21:42 |
| nemo | I also did have problems in past with badram | 21:42 |
| nemo | hmmm. | 21:42 |
| nemo | cousin_luigi: have you run memtest yet? | 21:42 |
| cousin_luigi | nemo: hmm, no. I suppose I will have to. | 21:49 |
| cousin_luigi | I think I have a memtest intergrated in the bios, but the machine is now headless and I'd rather not wire up things if I can avoid it. | 21:50 |
| cousin_luigi | Can memtest work over the serial when invoked from grub? | 21:50 |
| cousin_luigi | memtest86+ that is | 21:51 |
| cousin_luigi | Yes, it can. Will try it tomorrow and report back. | 21:55 |
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