libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2019-12-31

frabbit*sigh* that beep disableing just works partially...00:20
golinuxfrabbit: This works for me in startup sessions: "xset b off"  But I think your situations is more complicated than that so probably just wasted bits.00:48
frabbitgolinux: seems like that this works under x, i will add it to my .xinit then thx ;). i still have beeps in other situations, 4 ex. when i shutdown the computer... so weird that i have to disable different things...00:57
jgroschcan someone point me to some docs on how to get Devuan Beowulf? I have a VM running ASCII06:07
jgroschNever mind, I gave it a little think06:13
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GyrosGeier18:08 < frabbit> fsmithred: uncomment set bell-style none in /etc/inputrc has no effect15:47
GyrosGeieralso for new shells15:47
GyrosGeier?15:47
fsmithredGyrosGeier, I think he said later that it worked after logout/login15:53
GyrosGeierah16:09
xkr47is this supposed to be 403 forbidden? http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/17:52
xkr47if I curl it repeatedly, I get directory listings 90% of the time and 403 maybe 10%17:53
xkr47it seems it is 185.183.113.129 that gives 403, the others in the DNS pool don't give 40317:57
xkr47but it might still work of course, directory listings might just be forbidden..17:57
prfilseri am very confused.  apt install installs package hxtools_20190428-1_arm64.deb but the deb is not in /var/cache/apt/archives, and the binary hxtools: /usr/bin/fnt2bdf is not there18:37
gnarfacedpkg -l |grep hxtool18:38
gnarfacedoes it show up?18:38
gnarfacetry "dpkg -L hextools" to list contents18:39
gnarfaceonly if it's actually installed thoguh18:39
prfilserii  hxtools                                       20190428-1                                 arm6418:39
gnarfaceyep, says it successfully installed18:39
gnarfacetry "dpkg -L hextools" now.  that should list the files it installed.  maybe it just named the binary something else or put it somewhere unexpected18:40
gnarface** sorry "dpkg -L hxtools" of course18:40
prfilserinteresting, there seems to be mismatch between what apt-file search fnt2bdf reports, and what is actually in hxtools18:40
prfilserdpkg -L doesn't show me /usr/bin/fnt2bdf18:41
gnarfacewhen all else fails, look in /usr/share/doc/hxtools for any debian-specific errata18:41
gnarfaceif it is good software there will be something in there other than the changelog18:41
prfilsermaybe i caused a problem symlinking /var/cache/apt/archives to another partition ?18:42
prfilsernormally i get the .deb in /var/cache/apt/archives18:43
gnarfacepossible, though the issue would more likely be a permissions problem than an issue with the symlink itself18:43
prfilserhow do i manually grab that .deb? (beowulf)?18:43
gnarfaceyou could always try mounting that partition directly to the archive directory too to rule out the symlnk18:43
prfilserm18:44
gnarfacethere should be a "download-only" option to apt i just don't remember off the top of my head.  check the man page18:44
gnarfaceyou can just wget the debs from the repo directly too though18:44
gnarfaceoh18:45
gnarfaceit's just "download" instead of "install" for apt-get anyway18:45
gnarfacetry "apt-get download hxtools"18:45
prfilserok thank you gnarface18:45
prfilseri never find where to grab the actual .deb18:45
gnarfacealso note that it's supposed to manage archives itself, so you could juat have run out of space18:46
prfilserno, there's space18:46
gnarfaceand "apt-get clean" will purge the archive manually18:46
prfilseri will keep archive just in case18:46
gnarfacethat's not a safe space to assume a record of what is installed.  it's more of just a cache so if you want to re-install something soon after the initial install you don't have to re-download too18:47
prfilseryes18:47
prfilserwant to use an old windows .FON18:48
gnarfaceah, well good luck to you18:48
prfilseryes fnt2bdf, then bdftopcf may solve18:49
prfilserah or fontforge18:49
gnarfaceit is not a ttf font?18:49
prfilserit is a .FON font from win3.118:50
gnarfacei see18:50
prfilserthanks for the apt help, i saved to notes18:52
gnarfaceno problem.18:52
prfilserthere probably is an identical .bdf, but finding it would take a long time18:54
prfilserhttps://packages.debian.org/bullseye/hxtools  this says fnt2bdf is included in hxtools package but it's not on devuan19:03
prfilsergrabbing http://ftp.hr.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hxtools/hxtools_20190428-1_arm64.deb  and dpkg -X . the.deb shows it's not in ./usr/bin19:06
gnarfaceprfilser: hmm, sounds like a bug... did you check the version in ascii and ceres too?19:42
gnarfaceprfilser: if it's only missing from the beowulf one, it's definitely a bug.  if it is missing from all 3 then there is a chance something changed and the documentation just didn't get updated19:43
prfilserit's not just devuan, at least.  the debian package is also missing it19:44
prfilserit's an obscure utility with source on github so not a concern, i think19:44
gnarfacein the past sometimes i've seen the debian packaging just name stuff weird19:45
gnarfacelike it might put something in /usr/sbin or /usr/games unexpectedly, or it might just leave a script in /usr/share/doc/[package name]/examples/ that is usually put in the /etc/init.d right away on install by default in other distros, for example19:46
gnarfaceor, like the time when way back when node.js was new and they named their package node and all their shit node-* but there was already a completely other unrelated project using that moniker and naming convention in the debian repos.  somehow they got published to every other distro without noticing it.  oh the fun that ensued ...19:47
gnarface(then fixing the problem by renaming their stuff nodejs as should have been done all along re-introduced the same basic problem to everyone who had already adopted it under the earlier name)19:48
gnarfacebasically what i'm saying is that i don't know what happened in this case but there's a very short list of common snafus you should always check for)19:50
DocScrutinizer05happy new year!23:46
malade_mentalnot yet but thanks!23:48
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