libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2023-01-10

gnarfacesystemdlete: the last comment says to reopen if there's an issue, so maybe that's the thing to do04:33
Necrodiverhello, i have an issue with my thinkpad x200s. I cant get sound from it and all the places i look dont provide any trustworthy answers, or they are geared towards winblows users12:02
Necrodiveri even tried plugging in headphones and that didnt work either12:02
Necrodiverthe audio device is Intel 8280II (ICH9 family) audio controller, rev 312:03
Necrodiverthat pc is using refracta stable12:09
JorilHi! Have you checked /var/log/messages? any errors?12:14
Necrodiverdidnt know to look there, let me check right now12:15
Necrodiverdoesnt look to have any error messages with the audio12:18
Necrodiversays the pc speakers are devices/platform/pcspkr/input/input1312:21
Necrodiverthis seems to be a pretty common problem from all the searching ive done, but nothing ive tried works12:55
debdogNecrodiver: what does aplay -l say?12:55
Necrodivercard 0: Intel [HDA Intel] device 0: CX20561 analog subdevice 1/1, then it says it again for digital12:58
Necrodiverdevice 0 is analog, device 1 is digital13:00
Necrodiverso it SHOULD work13:00
debdogin alsamixer -V playback are channels Master and PCM unmuted and up?13:01
Necrodiveryep maxed to 10013:02
debdogand possible channel Front, too13:02
Necrodiverauto-mute is disabled too13:02
debdogand NOT muted? green OO at the very bottom of each slider?13:03
Necrodiveryep13:03
debdogit is possible sound is played but on the wrong device, analog vs. digital13:03
Necrodiverthe only thing off is s/pdif13:03
debdogok13:04
debdogI just don't remember how to test that :P13:05
gnarfaceNecrodiver: is pulseaudio running?13:06
Necrodivernot even installed13:06
Necrodiveronly alsa13:06
gnarfacewhat does "speaker-test -c 2" do?13:06
Necrodiverits fuzz sound13:07
gnarfaceit makes sound!13:07
gnarfacethat's the expected behavior13:07
Necrodiverokay13:07
gnarfacediagnosis: nothing is wrong with your setup13:07
gnarfacewell, nothing is wrong with stereo anyway13:08
Necrodiverlol13:08
gnarfacethe issue is probably with the program or media you were using13:08
debdogI hope it is not the browser used for testing sound13:09
Necrodiveri was using librewolf to watch a video on odysee13:09
onefangOne problem I've had with sound is that various sound things have more than one device.  For example my graphics card with four sockets has 6 separate sound outputs.13:09
gnarfacewas the video in surround-sound?13:09
Necrodiverdont think so, but let me check again13:09
gnarfaceif not, make sure librewolf is playing to the device called "default"13:09
gnarfaceit's possible for it to pick something other than default for the default (oh, the irony!)13:10
gnarfacei'm not familiar with librewolf or odyssey though13:10
gnarfaceodysee? is that how it's actually spelled?13:11
Necrodiveryeha13:11
gnarfacei'm not seeing librewolf in the repos...13:11
Necrodiveryeah you have to install it separately13:12
Necrodiverits not in any repos13:12
gnarfacedouble check that you didn't actually get a debian version of pulseaudio pulled in from their repo when you did that13:12
gnarfacebut my guess is that it needs a simple configuration setting change to point it to the right alsa device... why it wouldn't be using "default" these days is a mystery but it happens13:13
gnarfacecheck librewolf's docs about it13:14
Necrodiveryeha its librewolf13:14
Necrodiveri jsut tried with bvrave and it werked13:14
Necrodiversorry about all the misspellings lol13:14
Necrodiverso its a librewolf problem13:14
Necrodiveri should probably just use hardened firefox13:15
Necrodiversince thats all librewolf really is anyway13:15
onefangThere's a hardened firefox?13:15
Necrodiverlibrewolf removes a lot of telemetry and stuff13:16
Necrodiverbut you can do all that in about:preferences in firefox13:16
debdogdoes librewolf even support plain alsa? if not, you need apulse13:18
Necrodiveryeah i dont know about that13:18
Necrodiveri mean i have pulse on this pc because i needed it for obs13:18
onefangMozilla even tell you how to remave that telemetry and stuff.  https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-stop-firefox-making-automatic-connections13:18
onefangOBS might be able to use JACK.13:19
Necrodiverive heard it could but I had a lot of trouble trying to figure jack out13:19
Necrodiveri mean if i could use jack instead, i would13:19
onefangqjackctl helps with most of the JACK hard stuff.13:20
Necrodiverill have to spend some time this weekend using it13:20
Necrodiverif i can figure jack out, GTFO pulse13:20
Necrodiverlol13:20
Necrodiveri didnt want to install pulse, i felt dirty doing it lol13:21
onefangThat's what I did.  Nothing but ALSA and JACK here now.13:21
Necrodiverdo you use OBS at all?13:21
onefangI have OBS-studio installed here and no pulseaudio shit.  Haven't tried to use it yet though.13:22
Necrodiverah13:22
Necrodiverlemme uninstall pulse right now13:22
onefangI started (re)learning music stuff at Christmas, and teaching myself MIDI keyboards New Years Eve.13:22
onefangSo I've been evaluating all this fancy music creation software, and using it.13:23
Necrodiverwhat packages should i install from jack?13:23
onefangQjackctl, Qsynth, MusE, and aabunch of plugins is what I'm using.  I might add Hydrogen soon.13:24
onefangjackd213:24
Necrodiverso jackd2 and qjackctl13:25
onefangYep, that's the basics.  Then configure JACK via qjacjctl.13:26
onefangAnd if I didn't have my MIDI keyboard where my text keyboard usually lives right now, I'd be making less typoes.  lol13:28
Necrodiverlol13:28
Necrodiveri shouldnt do the real time priority crap, right?13:28
onefangNo need.13:28
onefangYou can deal with the real time stuff later if you need to do actual professional music stuff.13:30
Necrodiverwell ill have to screw around with it later now that its installed. I gotta take care of my laundry and get a LITTLE python study in before i go to bed13:30
onefangOK.  Have fun.13:31
* onefang goes back to his Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun drum'n'bass cover.13:31
Necrodiverlol13:32
Necrodiverthanks for the help, and ill figure jack out this weekend13:32

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