libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2023-02-24

rrqhave you renamed directories or is there some other mixup?00:00
Guest95rrq one has iso's, the other disks00:00
Guest95they give the same error00:01
gnarfacethere's no chance you'd need group write is there?00:01
rrqwhich user+group runs qemu?00:02
Guest95I think I killed this installation00:03
Guest95forget about it, thanks for trying to help. appreciated00:03
gnarfacewell you might not have, but if you've changed other stuff... hard to say00:03
Guest95gnarface I tried to give libvirt-qemu etc. access through ACL and more, even disabling everything and going back to normal won't let me run qemu00:04
Guest95what I could try doing is moving the disks and isos out of the home dir00:05
Guest95and forget about it, I'll try that00:05
rwpIt seems to me that Guest95's issue must have been that root was also blocked. Which was probably intended. But that also blocked access.00:18
rwpWhen I look at my libvirt installation the VMs that are not running have images owned by root:root but upon running are libvirt-qemu:libvirt-qemu which would require root access to effect.00:19
gnarfaceso probably not something that requires a reinstall to fix?00:23
rwpI would think not.  And also the VM image data itself should be unaffected.00:25
netbsdhello13:46
netbsdI have devuan arm6413:46
netbsdi need a kernel for my pinebook13:46
netbsdso i found out that recompiling the modules from vanilla kerneel 5.18 is best13:47
onefang#devuan-arm might bee the better place to ask.13:47
netbsdok, but then, I get ERROR at make. The  encrption of signature fails.13:47
netbsdsignature and "make" stops.13:47
netbsdit requires a sign or sort signature while compiling 5.18.0 kernel13:48
netbsdn   here some blog : https://www.kulesz.me/post/150_devuan_pinebookpro/13:53
buZzwhy build such a old kernel?13:53
netbsdbecause I want to mimic the default delivered kernel - similar to the one i got with manjaro14:04
netbsd 5.18.0-4  was my kernel when i got the delivery of this notebook pb pro14:04
buZzi dont understand why you want old software, but ok14:05
onefangHardware issue with the non native kernel?14:06
buZzpinebook is just a rk3399 iirc?14:06
buZzpro*14:07
buZzyeah, it is14:07
buZzshould be fine in mainline kernel, mostly14:07
buZzthere's #linux-rockchip, fyi14:07
netbsddoes devuan provide a readdy to use SD/MMC for this pb pro ?14:14
onefangAnother reason to suggest #devuan-arm, I think they mentioned that recently.14:15
buZzonefang: i dont think 'netbsd' wanted knowledg ;)14:16
buZzimho pinebook is pretty much a waste of time14:17
buZzmost pine- hw even14:17
buZzits all just shovelware with near zero softwaresupport14:17
buZzpinebook non-pro worked for 5 times before the case just fell apart :P14:18
HelenahbuZz, There's also the pine64 IRC network which is official.14:21
buZzHelenah: cool, is that where you can complain about the hw? :D14:21
HelenahNo, it's where you go and you tell them nicely about it, anyway https://www.pine64.org/web-irc/14:22
HelenahbuZz, Also, come join #devuan-offtopic, I want to talk but what I want to talk about which is more the topic of pine64 isn't appropriate for here.14:24
clemens3stupid gpg question: I try to verify Devuan iso signed by Ralph Ronnquist (rrq) <ralph.ronnquist@gmail.com>. I trust fsmithreds key.. I imported the devuan-dev.gpg, but i don't see who signed the ronnquist key? I can I follow the chain of trust to fsmithred?14:39
clemens3I can=How can14:40
onefangrrq might be asleep now, past midnight where he lives I think.14:41
onefangWell I knew where he lived some time ago, dunno if he's moved since.14:41
clemens3yeah, just how can i check his public pgp key?14:51
clemens3in principle14:51
clemens3i know, if he responses is best, but just how can i follow his key to fsmithreds key?14:51
clemens3sorry to ask noob gpg qustions14:51
clemens3but i am glad devuan puts the pgp info right at the top of the readme14:52
onefangWe have a page of PGP keys on our web site somewhere.14:53
onefanghttps://www.devuan.org/os/team14:55
clemens3i installed his key14:56
clemens3but i see no one, who signed his key except himself.. maybe i am wrong14:56
onefangMaybe you can work backwards, then forwards.  I think rrq signed the Devuan key.14:58
clemens3but who signed rrq?14:59
clemens3the sha256sum file is signed by rrq15:00
onefangOthers know about our key signing stuff, I just think I remember things I have seen hanging out in the infrastructure areas.  Hopefully one of them will pipe up soon.15:01
clemens3sure, i will hang on:)15:02
fsmithredgpg --list-sigs 772954763410754115:04
onefangAll I know for sure is about my own key.  I was asked to provide one for that web page, then I noticed my old one was waaay old, though it did have a decent web of trust behind it.  So I generated a new one, but don't use it for anything.15:04
fsmithredon my desktop machine shows that I signed ralph's key on 2022-09-2515:04
fsmithredonefang, sign your new key with your old one to connect the web of trust15:05
onefangI may have.  lol15:05
onefangIf any one actually needs me to sign stuff, then I'll put some actual effort into getting things done properly again.15:07
clemens3gpg --list-sigs rrq15:11
clemens3pub   rsa2048 2017-07-20 [SC]15:11
clemens3      E93D7167A4F5FA9E9FED497770285BA5CF280BA415:11
clemens3uid           [ unknown] Ralph Ronnquist (rrq) <ralph.ronnquist@gmail.com>15:11
clemens3sig 3        70285BA5CF280BA4 2017-07-20  Ralph Ronnquist (rrq) <ralph.ronnquist@gmail.com>15:11
clemens3sub   rsa2048 2017-07-20 [E]15:11
clemens3sig          70285BA5CF280BA4 2017-07-20  Ralph Ronnquist (rrq) <ralph.ronnquist@gmail.com>15:11
clemens3so he signed himself and nobody else?15:11
onefangCareful.15:11
onefangTho bot might kick you if you do too much pasting like that.15:11
clemens3ok15:12
fsmithredI don't get it. On my desktop, I see my sig, but on the laptop I only see ralph's self-sigs15:13
fsmithredeven after refreshing keys15:13
fsmithredoh...15:13
fsmithredmaybe he didn't upload to a public server15:13
onefangAnything to do with that expiring keys issue we had last year?15:14
clemens3ok, i used the web interface and found 2 more signatures! bingo.15:14
clemens3so what i did was using the devuan-dev.gpg file to import.. now i used the web, and that seems to have more15:15
clemens3ok, will go from here..15:15
fsmithredcool15:16
fsmithredI have to leave in a few minutes15:16
fsmithredonefang, I don't know. I have to read docs or notes just about every time I use gpg.15:17
onefangThat's why I only provided the minimum when I was asked to provide a key for that web page.15:18
onefangIf I need to I'll learn the ins and outs again.  For just an unused key of mine, things are currently fine.15:18
anonhi18:07
debdogahoy18:09
anonI edited isolinux.cfg and grub.cfg and added "persistence" item, but it doesn't work. How to fix?  https://pastebin.com/TNguK3uG18:35
gnarfacei suspect you were supposed to edit /etc/defaults/grub instead18:37
gnarface* /etc/default/grub i mean18:37
gnarfaceif you use paste.debian.net i'll actually look at what you pasted but i doubt i have any better guesses18:38
rwpThat paste is unavailable now.  Times out.18:39
anongnarface, https://paste.debian.net/1271980/18:44
gnarfaceanon: you get some sort of error or does it just not show up in the menu when you reboot?18:45
anongnarface, after I select the "persistence" item, the system starts, but files from the Downloads folder are not saved to the "persistence" section18:48
gnarfaceoh, that sounds like a different problem than i was expecting18:49
gnarfacei suspect you're missing something but i can't recall what it would be18:50
gnarfacestick around, someone knows though18:50
rwpI have never used any persistence feature of live-boot images.  I think that's the root of the question.18:55
gnarfacei did it once, i vaguely recall having a lot of trouble with it too but i think my mistake just boiled down to having the wrong location for the persistence partition or the wrong name or filesystem permissions of the top level directory or something like that18:57
anonI will leave the computer for an hour19:04
anonhi20:13
gnarfacewhat's your partition layout, anon?20:15
anongnarface, one ext4 partition20:18
gnarfaceanon: doesn't persistence need its own partition?20:28
gnarfacei thought you had to make another partition just for persistence20:28
fsmithredanother partition or a loopback file20:33
fsmithredand it needs a label of "persistence"20:33
fsmithredor some other label and then list that label on command line20:34
fsmithredand also a persistence.conf file in the root of the volume that describes what kind of persistence20:34
fsmithredanon ^^^20:34
anoni set the "persistence" label and now everything works20:48
anoni leaving the chat20:49

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