libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2023-03-09

joergwell, !77 is "line 77 in history"03:53
brocashelmanyone here used udevil/devmon before? trying to replace udisks2 with it and the unmounting does not work (says i have to be superuser) unless i run the command udevil unmount /dev/sXY05:29
brocashelmalso, if simply unmounting the usb drive (as an example), would that be any riskier to data than soft ejecting?05:29
gnarfacebrocashelm: it might help to have fuse installed, not sure07:23
gnarfacei always unmount then eject, just to be safe07:24
gnarfaceshould usually be enough to just unmount, but i think in some cases you actually have to sync then unmount then eject07:25
gnarface... or you leave stuff behind07:25
brocashelmgnarface: i see that fuse is not installed, but i always had gvfs-fuse installed07:31
gnarfacei'm not sure that fuse will matter for this, maybe it's a mundane permissions issue07:48
gnarfacethe user the daemon runs as might have to be part of the disks group07:49
rwpumount will sync the data to the device synchronously.  It will wait until the sync completes.  When the umount returns it is safe to remove the device.10:01
leafwizHey. Is there a way to disable multible IPs per NIC? I'm in a environment where VLAN's are dynamically assigned. My system looses network con. since it prioritizes the IP from the first VLAN. aka fallback VLAN. and not the last assigned VLAN the pc vlan.15:17
leafwizI also wonder why this is default behaviour to accept multible subnets on one nic. Back in the days we only had one ipv4 subnet per nic, that was default behaviour.15:18
leafwizSo when you did call to dhclient it gave you a fresh and working subnet.15:18
bb|hcbrwp: Unfortunately that is not true with some cheap USB - they have internal memory buffer and it is not safe to plug them out for some time after umount (the actual write is delayed inside the device) :(15:31
fluffywolfgiven as ram costs money, I can't imagine them having a buffer much larger than the flash's page size...16:24
bb|hcbfluffywolf: Don't think about separate ram, imagine each flash cell is buffered...17:41
rwpbb|hcb, I think if a device is that broken that it should be e-recycled to scrap and replaced since there are many inexpensive competitors available.19:49
rwpA device such as that would not work correctly on *any* OS!  Not our preferred one, not MS, not Apple, not any of them.  Better to avoid it.19:51
bb|hcbTrue... I just noted that such things exist20:01

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