| onefang | Hopefully all my network dropouts and other system holdups on my super desktop will stop now that I have stopped integrit from chewing on 16 TB of spinning rust all day. | 00:51 |
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| onefang | Think I'll ionice it next time. | 00:52 |
| brocashelm | are there any video players that do not use dbus, avahi, or wayland packages? | 08:03 |
| brocashelm | i can't even install ffmpeg (for ffplay) due to some of those "dependencies" | 08:03 |
| onefang | VLC? | 08:05 |
| gnarface | you shouldn't need avahi or wayland for vlc, not sure about dbus | 08:07 |
| gnarface | but make sure you're using "--no-install-recommends" | 08:07 |
| onefang | A hole bunch of things drag in wayland libraries. | 08:07 |
| onefang | I have VLC installed, but nothing avahi. | 08:07 |
| gnarface | mplayer might work too | 08:07 |
| brocashelm | tried installing vlc; no success | 08:09 |
| brocashelm | both mplayer and vlc want libwayland packages | 08:10 |
| brocashelm | and libavahi | 08:10 |
| gnarface | just the libs though, probably | 08:10 |
| brocashelm | mplayer drags libpulse0, which drags libdbus-1-3 | 08:10 |
| onefang | Which Devuan version? | 08:11 |
| brocashelm | daedalus | 08:11 |
| brocashelm | but i don't think it'd be any different in chimaera | 08:11 |
| gnarface | as long as you don't have avahi-daemon it's not gonna run any of that stuff | 08:11 |
| brocashelm | i am attempting to create a non-dbus/wayland/pipewire/pulseaudio/gvfs/udisks2/avahi/elogind install | 08:11 |
| brocashelm | so far, what i got is openbox + hpanel + xfe + dillo + zutty | 08:12 |
| gnarface | if you tolerate just the library packages being installed unused, i'm pretty sure you can get rid of everything in that list but dbus without rebuilding packages | 08:12 |
| gnarface | if you don't even want the libraries you'll need to probably rebuild some packages to change the dependencies | 08:13 |
| onefang | Or just delete the libraries? | 08:13 |
| brocashelm | they are hard dependencies. don't think the packages will last | 08:14 |
| brocashelm | i have those packages blacklisted on both wildcard ends | 08:14 |
| onefang | What is zutty? Synaptic doesn't know it. | 08:14 |
| brocashelm | e.g. *dbus*, *wayland*, *avahi* | 08:14 |
| brocashelm | it's a terminal for x11 | 08:14 |
| brocashelm | is it not in chimaera? | 08:14 |
| brocashelm | https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/zutty | 08:15 |
| onefang | Not in Chimaera. | 08:15 |
| brocashelm | this one installed without pulling those "libs" | 08:15 |
| brocashelm | then it's going to make its debut in daedalus | 08:15 |
| brocashelm | it's not too shabby | 08:15 |
| brocashelm | seems to be a bit more gpu-related | 08:16 |
| onefang | I was about to ask how it compares to termit, the one I currently use. | 08:16 |
| brocashelm | i haven't tried it. can't install it because of wayland libs | 08:16 |
| brocashelm | i managed to get a DE-like interface with idesk + xwallpaper | 08:17 |
| brocashelm | creating some basic launchers like home folder (xfe), trash (your ~/.local/share/Trash/files dir), and dillo | 08:17 |
| onefang | https://github.com/tomscii/zutty | 08:19 |
| brocashelm | other challenge at the moment would be creating a simple gui to connect to the internet (even just eth0 will suffice) | 08:42 |
| u-amarsh04 | brocashelm building mplayer from source isn't too difficult | 13:26 |
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