| _Mystified | need some help in locating & configuring this broadcom eth0 driver, suggestions would be appreviated, I'm running Devuan server, 6.1.0-7-amd64 # Debian 6.1.20-2. Hardware mac mini 2012 i7-2nd gen 12GB Ram | 05:54 |
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| _Mystified | oops 6.1.0-7-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.20-2 | 05:54 |
| _Mystified | oops | 05:54 |
| _Mystified | https://dpaste.org/VTnrT :) | 05:54 |
| _Mystified | In advance, thanks kindly | 05:55 |
| rwp | But it appears from that paste that eth0 already has a driver for it. No? Run "lspci -k" and see what driver is listed for it. | 06:12 |
| rwp | For example on an Intel card here: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1279484 | 06:12 |
| _Mystified | thanks rwp: | 06:13 |
| rwp | Also in your paste it says the link is up at 100Mbps full duplex so, okay? | 06:13 |
| rrq | firmware-linux-nonfree has tigon firmware | 06:13 |
| rwp | You might get data from it with "ethtool eth0" which for example shows this type of information: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1279485 | 06:14 |
| rwp | _Mystified, rrq is almost certainly on the correct solution with the firmware-linux-nonfree firmware if your device needs the firmware then load it. | 06:14 |
| _Mystified | https://dpaste.org/RjwNf | 06:15 |
| rwp | That does seem to indicate there is no driver but then how can it show link up at 100Mbps? Strange indeed! | 06:17 |
| rwp | Install the firmware-linux-nonfree package. Reboot. See what state things are in then. | 06:17 |
| _Mystified | /sbin/ethtool eth0 | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Settings for eth0: | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Supported ports: [ TP ] | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Supported pause frame use: No | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Supports auto-negotiation: Yes | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Supported FEC modes: Not reported | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | 1000baseT/Half 1000baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Advertised pause frame use: No | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Advertised FEC modes: Not reported | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Link partner advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Link partner advertised pause frame use: Symmetric | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Link partner advertised auto-negotiation: Yes | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Link partner advertised FEC modes: Not reported | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Speed: 100Mb/s | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Duplex: Full | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Auto-negotiation: on | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Port: Twisted Pair | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | PHYAD: 1 | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | Transceiver: internal | 06:19 |
| _Mystified | MDI-X: off | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | Supports Wake-on: g | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | Wake-on: g | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | Current message level: 0x000000ff (255) | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | drv probe link timer ifdown ifup rx_err tx_err | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | Link detected: yes | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | shit,,, | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | sorry | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | https://dpaste.org/J2MOc | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | very very sorry ! | 06:20 |
| rwp | I am really surprised the global Libera bot did not kick you for that paste! Your client slowed things down enough to avoid it. | 06:20 |
| _Mystified | already the newest version (20230210-4) | 06:21 |
| _Mystified | thanks | 06:21 |
| _Mystified | i'm finding the network is really slow. | 06:21 |
| rwp | That shows mostly good stuff. The network switch port you are connected to shows that it is only a 10/100 port. | 06:21 |
| rwp | So your end could only associated at 100Mbps. Even though your end is capable of 1000Mbps. | 06:21 |
| _Mystified | btw how do I check a status of a service, as there is no service command | 06:22 |
| _Mystified | fully understand that. | 06:22 |
| rwp | There is a service command. But what name service do you want to check upon? | 06:22 |
| _Mystified | but my my updates are only comming through in the low KB | 06:23 |
| rwp | "man service" to see how to use it. It is a good command. I always use it to clean my environment instead of invoking the init scripts with my polluted environment. | 06:23 |
| rwp | Maybe try https://www.speedtest.net/ for an overall speed? | 06:23 |
| rwp | If you are checking up on your network status I use "ip addr show eth0" and "ip route show". | 06:24 |
| _Mystified | Download: 2.43 Mbit/s Upload: 10.96 Mbit/s | 06:27 |
| rwp | Example: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1279486 | 06:27 |
| rwp | The inet and inet6 parts show the interface IP address and the route has a default route (for IPv4 show, I don't have IPv6 on my ISP). | 06:28 |
| _Mystified | 192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.137 | 06:30 |
| rwp | Just by way of working here but I don't need to see the result. I was showing you the output from here because examples are useful. | 06:30 |
| rwp | But here you have an IP address. That's good enough. Seems like it should be working for you. | 06:30 |
| rwp | But if you haven't followed rrq's suggestion to install the firmware then that's going to be a problem. Go install it. Reboot. Then check the status. | 06:31 |
| _Mystified | maybe i need to switch to different repo. I should try australian rather than deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus | 06:33 |
| rwp | Possibly. Choosing explicitly a local mirror might help quite a bit. We don't have good mirrors in my location either and so my speeds downloading packages is not good. | 06:34 |
| _Mystified | apt install firmware-linux-nonfree states already the latest version | 06:35 |
| rwp | Ah! Then you do already have it. Very good! | 06:35 |
| _Mystified | how do I test to locate my mirror, on another note I'm unable to locate the man for services | 06:36 |
| _Mystified | mirror for my country | 06:36 |
| rwp | Install init-system-helpers package to get it. | 06:37 |
| onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt for choosing a mirror. Being in Australia as well, I'd be picking the NZ one, coz the only Aussie one we have isn't fully setup yet. | 06:37 |
| onefang | On the other hand, I use my Netherlands one, so I'm eating my own dogfood. B-) | 06:38 |
| _Mystified | ok | 06:38 |
| _Mystified | lol | 06:38 |
| rwp | And then (since I like examples) this is an example for "service" command usage: https://paste.debian.net/plain/1279488 | 06:41 |
| _Mystified | okFetched 9,284 kB in 22s (428 kB/s) nz. 30MB connection | 06:42 |
| _Mystified | note "bash: service: command not found" | 06:44 |
| rwp | Are you root? It would help if you were root. Or used sudo. | 06:45 |
| _Mystified | su | 06:45 |
| rwp | Never use "su". Never. Because it confuses people. Always use "su -". | 06:45 |
| _Mystified | whomi : root | 06:46 |
| rwp | The - option tells su to invoke the shell as a login shell. Login shells source the environment files. | 06:46 |
| rwp | echo $PATH and look to see if this is your user path or if it is root's path. Likely your path not root's path. | 06:46 |
| rwp | root's path will have /usr/sbin /sbin in PATH. Yours likely does not. | 06:46 |
| _Mystified | your right su " - " | 06:47 |
| _Mystified | now the service command works | 06:47 |
| rwp | You have taken your first step on the path to success. | 06:47 |
| _Mystified | how to fix | 06:47 |
| _Mystified | you have been a great help. | 06:48 |
| rwp | How to fix... What? | 06:48 |
| _Mystified | thank you ! I was begining to think I was in the wrong flavour. | 06:48 |
| rwp | So far none of the things we have been talking about have been specific to Devuan and all would be the same problems or not on any of the distros. | 06:49 |
| _Mystified | I missed read your post. all good. | 06:49 |
| _Mystified | but thank you so much. | 06:49 |
| rwp | You are most welcome! I am sure the rest of the folks here would say that too. Good luck! Time for sleep for me. | 06:50 |
| _Mystified | I've been using openrc as my daily driver, in Redcorelinux. | 06:50 |
| _Mystified | I tried the openrc, but in hindsight, I was having the same issues, with services as here, not using the 'su -" | 06:51 |
| _Mystified | I choose devuan for server. 1. no sysd , 2. stability 3. support like debian | 06:53 |
| _Mystified | sleep well | 06:54 |
| _Mystified | bye | 06:54 |
| _Mystified | anuone online, to dvise what application to use to manage this devuan server via the webbrowser, I'm new to servers and devuan/debian. I'm going through a steep learning curve from linux desktop | 09:22 |
| buZz | hi | 09:26 |
| buZz | _Mystified: in some dark history, i've seen people use 'webmin' to administrate/manage servers remotely over websites | 09:27 |
| buZz | but tbf, you'd only be -limiting- your ability to learn actually valuable skills ;) | 09:28 |
| onefang | I was about to say the same, used to use webmin loooong ago. | 09:28 |
| buZz | _Mystified: just go all the way, grow your neckbeard out etc | 09:28 |
| hagbard | I you want to learn, you'll learn way more just using ssh instead of a browser thing. | 09:29 |
| buZz | agreed | 09:29 |
| _Mystified | thanks guys | 09:32 |
| buZz | <3 | 09:33 |
| _Mystified | just finished configuring the zpool | 09:34 |
| _Mystified | 221MB in use | 09:35 |
| _Mystified | while running with ssh | 09:35 |
| _Mystified | what should I configure next, user accounts done. This is a media server, I'm planning to use jellyfin, qbittorrent-nox, what else do you guys suggest I do other than securing it. I will use ufw. | 09:38 |
| _Mystified | I'll also change port 22. | 09:39 |
| buZz | disable root login, put pubkey in right place ;) | 09:40 |
| _Mystified | will do, I really need to grasp that concept as I'm still using [asswords on a couple of pc I have multiple boots, so I constanly nees to delete the .ssh/knownhost password key. | 09:45 |
| buZz | make a 'gateway' vm in your lan , and just bounce over that? :D | 09:47 |
| _Mystified | how to do that or can suggest a decent link for a guide | 09:48 |
| buZz | eh | 09:49 |
| buZz | i mean, just a box you ssh with whatever you do normally to | 09:49 |
| buZz | and you can use keys from there for rest of lan stuff | 09:49 |
| buZz | kinda | 09:49 |
| _Mystified | ok | 09:50 |
| _Mystified | bascally keypass | 09:50 |
| buZz | but a vm | 09:51 |
| _Mystified | bascally keyp Ithink it's time for a breakass | 09:51 |
| buZz | :D | 09:51 |
| _Mystified | bascally keyp Ithink it's time for a break | 09:51 |
| _Mystified | lol | 09:51 |
| buZz | gnu pass is kinda populair aswell | 09:51 |
| buZz | its got android and ios frontends, and uses pgp, all self hosted , self secure | 09:51 |
| buZz | cloudfree | 09:51 |
| buZz | unclouded :D | 09:52 |
| _Mystified | ok. I've not worked with ios or android, for now i'll stick with the little I know. Isit wise to run devuan ontop devuan, or does it make no difference. | 10:16 |
| _Mystified | I'll try qemu. | 10:16 |
| buZz | _Mystified: just go have fun, make mistakes, dont forget to ask questions, and read documentation :) | 10:24 |
| buZz | we're always here | 10:24 |
| _Mystified | thanks guys. so do devuan as virtual | 10:26 |
| landley | Is there a reason deb.devuan.org isn't resolving for wget, but nslookup can find it? | 11:34 |
| landley | Seems to only be that site. I can't apt-get. | 11:35 |
| landley | When I visit via browser it says it's got the wrong https key, but otherwise exists. | 11:35 |
| gnarface | landley: make sure your system time is correct | 11:36 |
| landley | It's about 15 minutes in the future and has been for... 6 years? | 11:36 |
| landley | Also, I have http:// not https:// in the apt-whatsis file. It's dns lookup that's failing. | 11:37 |
| gnarface | also note that deb.devuan.org is a dns round-robin of a dozen or so different servers, and they don't all properly support https last i heard | 11:37 |
| gnarface | hmm | 11:37 |
| gnarface | you just said you do get dns working though? | 11:37 |
| landley | The https failure was the site's key was some german site. | 11:37 |
| gnarface | with nslookup... | 11:37 |
| landley | But that was browser, not command line. | 11:38 |
| landley | With nslookup, yes. Not with wget or apt-get. | 11:38 |
| gnarface | working for me... | 11:38 |
| landley | And the browser can find it, but chrome's doing some horrible dns tunneling thing to prevent ad blockers these days. | 11:38 |
| landley | Sigh, ltrace is saying | 11:39 |
| landley | getaddrinfo("deb.devuan.org", nil, 0x7ffcac942370, 0x7ffcac942338) = -2 | 11:39 |
| landley | gai_strerror(-2) = "Name or service not known" | 11:39 |
| landley | But who knows what horrible things glibc's nss_crapshoot.so is doing. | 11:39 |
| landley | Does devuan have some sort of dns cache near the glibc level? | 11:41 |
| landley | There's a horrific systemd thing but I'm using devuan to NOT have that. | 11:41 |
| gnarface | there's no dns cache unless you installed a local caching resolver | 11:42 |
| gnarface | firefox however has its own dns cache | 11:42 |
| gnarface | chrome might too | 11:42 |
| gnarface | but i can't reproduce your issue here | 11:42 |
| gnarface | so it seems likely it's something you've done or something your ISP has done | 11:42 |
| onefang | Almost all of the package mirrors support HTTPS for their own domain name, but none do for the deb.devuan.org domain name. | 11:42 |
| landley | Understood. For all I know a bit flipped in ram, although that seems unlikely. | 11:43 |
| gnarface | i would consider your dns servers suspect, possibly try some others | 11:43 |
| landley | Which is presumably why /etc/apt/sources.list is doing http:// | 11:43 |
| onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt lists our package mirrors, it might be helpful. | 11:44 |
| landley | Yup, edited /etc/resolv.conf to 8.8.8.8 and it's working now. | 11:44 |
| gnarface | landley: note also that firefox might also have "dns over https" on by default, which would tunnel your dns requests over https to google dns servers, which might be obscuring any local dns server issues | 11:44 |
| landley | I'm using chrome. | 11:45 |
| gnarface | chrome might be doing the same thing, i'm not sure | 11:45 |
| landley | Firefox doesn't let me "pkill -f renderer" and I've got over a dozen open chrome windows with dozens of tabs in each... | 11:45 |
| landley | Chrome wasn't what failed. I could at least see the page. It's just https:// complained the certificate didn't match the site. | 11:45 |
| onefang | landley already mentioned that chrome is doing that DNS tunnelling thing. | 11:45 |
| landley | Red herring. | 11:45 |
| landley | Which is why it _didn't_ see this issue. | 11:46 |
| landley | Anyway, not a known issue with the server, sorry to bother you. | 11:46 |
| landley | Local DNS for some reasons said deb.devuan.org was nxdomain. Dunno why. | 11:46 |
| onefang | No worries. | 11:47 |
| onefang | We do have a monitoring system keeping track of our package mirrors. | 11:48 |
| helpmeplease | Where can I find runit daemon for yggdrasil | 13:17 |
| Xenguy | helpmeplease: Recommend you idle until the usual suspects wake up | 13:54 |
| rustyaxe | for yggdrasil? Probably not in #devuan lol | 14:39 |
| fsmithred | helpmeplease, I usually refer to this discussion when I want to create runit scripts: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3716 | 15:14 |
| fsmithred | if void or antix has one that you want, you can probably adapt it. | 15:15 |
| hacksenwerk | For daedalus sources.list, there's only deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged daedalus main needed right? | 16:23 |
| hacksenwerk | I made a minimla chimaera install and upgrade to daedalus, but the security and the updates repo do not work. So I think that's normal? | 16:24 |
| PolaritonCondens | You might need non-free-firmware now. Security and updates should start working once Daedalus is released. | 16:36 |
| PolaritonCondens | ...though I guess if your Daedalus system is working normally now, you don't need non-free-firmware. | 16:37 |
| gnarface | gone already | 16:57 |
| hacksenwerk | There are packages missing in daedalus, like the xserver-xorg-input-void for example | 17:45 |
| hacksenwerk | I don't understand testing releases anymore... It's so long ago since I used one... | 18:40 |
| PolaritonCondens | That's been gone for a long time: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/xserver-xorg-input-void | 20:13 |
| hacksenwerk | PolaritonCondens: Ok interesting. | 20:23 |
| hacksenwerk | PolaritonCondens: I was following this nice guide to have a minimal x installation: https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/minimal-xorg-install.html | 20:24 |
| golinux | dev1fanboy hasn't been around since just after Covid started. He just disappeared. No contact from his side and no response to outreach from my end. | 20:26 |
| hacksenwerk | But there are more packages missing, like keylaunch for example: https://packages.debian.org/search?lang=en&suite=bookworm&searchon=names&keywords=keylaunch | 20:26 |
| hacksenwerk | And some more (can't remember, need to copy that apt log, I installed daedalus on the same machine I'm on a the moment) | 20:27 |
| hacksenwerk | (But I'm on debian 11 atm) | 20:27 |
| golinux | Xenguy: Perhaps there should be a note on dev1fandoy's page that some of his work might be outdated? | 20:28 |
| n4dir | is that guide supposed to replace a simple "apt-get install xorg" ? | 20:29 |
| golinux | n4dir: Check it out and let us know! | 20:30 |
| golinux | He wrote that many years ago | 20:31 |
| n4dir | it looks like it, but i am not sure. Hence the question | 20:32 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: Yes | 20:35 |
| hacksenwerk | xorg brings a lot of stuff | 20:35 |
| hacksenwerk | the core package will bring less | 20:36 |
| n4dir | hacksenwerk: there was a stoneage how-to at forums.debian bout minimal X, but that would be outdated too | 20:36 |
| n4dir | i recall xorg to be round the lines of either 130 or 180 MB | 20:36 |
| n4dir | but it sure is fun, no complaining here | 20:36 |
| Xenguy | golinux: Perhaps there should be, but I have to admit that the last thing I need right now is a side project, as I'm trying to sort out as much of the release to Daedalus as I can before next month. I wonder if there is an elegant one-liner that could be applied at the top of the various dev1fanboy documentation pages that would serve to indicate 'use at your own risk', or whatever? | 20:39 |
| Xenguy | No documentation lasts forever, alas | 20:40 |
| hacksenwerk | Xenguy: At the bottom there's: "This work is provided “AS IS” and comes with absolutely NO warranty." ;) | 20:44 |
| hacksenwerk | It mostly works. | 20:44 |
| hacksenwerk | I just had a frozen dwm after running startx xP | 20:45 |
| n4dir | well, if you don't install a GUI during install, there are many things you see missing while using, so imho as long you find those missing ones yourself, the how-to should still do it's job. | 20:45 |
| hacksenwerk | But maybe that's .xinitrc configuration | 20:45 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: I run my script to install packages step-by-step on the base of a minimal Devuan. | 20:46 |
| hacksenwerk | This part of my script was taken from that guide. | 20:46 |
| n4dir | i just install them when i want to use them and realize they are not there. But that is rather "raw" | 20:46 |
| n4dir | hacksenwerk: just write a how-to or summary and post it at the forum? | 20:47 |
| n4dir | as in: mainly copy the guide found, just add what you figured out is missing. | 20:48 |
| hacksenwerk | n4dir: yup | 20:54 |
| hacksenwerk | Forum, sure I can do that if I feel better. :) | 20:55 |
| hacksenwerk | I totally forgot about the forum! | 20:55 |
| hacksenwerk | And I'm a member. xD | 20:55 |
| Xenguy | hacksenwerk: Aha, thanks, that note at the bottom should suffice then, at least for now. | 20:56 |
| hacksenwerk | Xenguy: :D | 20:57 |
| Xenguy | hacksenwerk: If you do discover some 'patch' that works, feel free to ping me, and I can try to see about applying it to the main web site | 20:59 |
| hacksenwerk | Xenguy: Ok. :) | 21:00 |
| hacksenwerk | But now I will watch a movie! | 21:01 |
| hacksenwerk | Have a nice evening everyone! | 21:01 |
| n4dir | :-) | 21:01 |
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