libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2023-11-04

Necrodiverhttps://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=ranking04:05
NecrodiverDevuan #1 on distrowatch04:05
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FatPhilas measured by fanboiism, alas13:07
Necrodiverwe beat out arch and are tied with artix. Even within a fanboy environment, this is something that we should be happy about13:09
* Xenguy allows happiness to touch his existence...13:11
ted-iousAre there any possible tricks for installing vim without all the add-on stuff like ruby or lua?18:57
ted-iousI just want the old style vim with basic syntax highlighting.18:57
ted-iousInstalling vim-nox used to do that but now it wants to install 2 dozen packages including ruby.18:58
masonted-ious: --no-recommends ?19:00
masonSorry, --no-install-recommends19:00
ted-iousOh you're right I think I had that configured automatically but I forgot to back up that file.19:00
ted-iousHmm that doesn't affect vim-nox very much.19:02
ted-iousIt does manage to avoid x11-common and xclip for neovim though.19:02
ted-iousNow there's no grub after my second reboot?19:11
ted-iousHow does apt upgrade make grub stop working?19:12
APiclol19:12
masonUEFI or legacy? If UEFI, make sure the uuid in the ESP grub config points to your actual /boot19:16
ted-iousIt's bios.19:16
masonted-ious: Also, if you're on ZFS, which I believe you are, maybe describe your /boot so we can be more detailed.19:16
ted-iousI'm not on zfs yet since the last install failed so badly and I'm reinstalling.19:17
ted-iousAnd /boot is just sda1.19:17
ted-iousI'm putting a base system on sda2 and making sure everything works before I install zfs onto sda3.19:18
rwpI know there are people who hate on having a swap partition but I would strongly recommend having at least a small swap partition in there too.19:26
rwpRegardless of anything do NOT put a swap file on the ZFS file system.  Since ZFS also needs memory it leads to a memory lockup possibility under memory stress.19:26
rwpBut anyway if you have /boot on sda1 with Legacy BIOS boot then that is the simple straight path and I can't think of any reason grub would be having difficulties there.19:28
rwpWhat's your partition type?  GPT?  If so then that requires a partition to hold the stage loaders.  Because there is no empty space to sneak into like on MBR partitions.19:28
ted-iousI'm very familiar with the swapfile problem and recommendation. :)19:39
ted-ioussda2 will be a real swap partition when I'm done.19:39

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