| Nematocyst | got a service that isn't starting at boot. it starts fine manually, don't see any errors indicating failed startup. there appears to be a link in /etc/rc2.d:S03opensmtpd... what am I missing? | 04:47 |
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| mason | Nematocyst: Check permissions on the file linked. Also, things not starting at boot can be a dependency issue, so check the things the service wants. | 04:58 |
| mason | Remote filesystems, etc. | 04:58 |
| Nematocyst | mason, thanks. couldn't find anything obvious. tried changing the prefix to 06 (after rc.local) and that didn't work, but invoking "service opensmtpd start" inside rc.local did work. i don't get it. i know this isn't correct, but at least it works | 05:13 |
| mason | Nematocyst: rc.local starts later | 05:15 |
| mason | so it's an ordering issue | 05:16 |
| Nematocyst | mason, wouldn't there be some error i could find that indicates a failure? | 05:17 |
| mason | Nematocyst: If it's logged, yeah. | 05:18 |
| Nematocyst | whatever failure it might be, it doesn't progress enough to write to its own log (mail.log) | 05:18 |
| mason | But it might not be. | 05:18 |
| mason | Nematocyst: A trick you might try is throwing a set -x in the init script. | 05:19 |
| mason | Then maybe you see what it's trying to do as your console scrolls by on startup. | 05:19 |
| mason | Nematocyst: The big issue(s) are filesystem availability (NFS is a common culprit here) and network set-up timing. | 05:20 |
| mason | Hm, name service can also be an issue, if it wants to qualify itself on coming up./ | 05:21 |
| Nematocyst | mason, can't be NFS. and It's headless and I'm not using serial cable for connecting (though i could). as it's an inherently network item, makes sense it might be network timing | 05:22 |
| Nematocyst | i think i'm done with this issue for now.. i'll leave it be so i can end on a high note today after getting it configured so it does what i want... just surprised this lingering startup issue wasn't trival | 05:24 |
| mason | So, either it can't open a listener when it wants to, or it can't resolve a name. | 05:24 |
| mason | Nematocyst: You can maybe test the name by making sure you have all the relevant mappings in /etc/hosts | 05:25 |
| mason | Like, how it thinks of itself, and its primary relay if it has one. | 05:25 |
| gour | hello, is sysvinit still recommended init system for minimal tinkering with os? | 17:46 |
| gnarface | yes | 17:48 |
| gour | thanks. will try latest release on my old netbook...is ceres similar in stability as sid? | 17:51 |
| gnarface | yes | 17:59 |
| gnarface | current stable is daedalus | 18:00 |
| gour | in general i do not have need for many new(er)/fresher apps. maybe using backports would be sufficient | 18:07 |
| gour | recently i was using opensuse tumbleweed, but it looks they're heading towards immutable os-es | 18:07 |
| gour | siduction is interesting, but if i'd be able to resolve all my issues (i had in past) within devuan, i'd be happy to avoid systemd | 18:08 |
| gour | i've a need to use few prop. apps like viber/zoom...do flatpaks in general work under devuan? | 18:14 |
| djph | zoom has a regular client (or did last time I had to update) | 18:15 |
| djph | s/client/package/ | 18:15 |
| gour | last time i had trouble with viber which was re-starting setup procedure again & again | 18:17 |
| clegrand | Hi everyone ! | 20:07 |
| clegrand | Do you know which channel (or others) I can use to contact the team in charge of .deb packages? | 20:09 |
| clegrand | I'd like to know if they need any help. | 20:09 |
| brocashelm | clegrand: you can join #devuan-dev | 20:10 |
| brocashelm | help is always appreciated | 20:11 |
| clegrand | Thank you for the information. | 20:14 |
| clegrand | I will contact you. | 20:14 |
| brocashelm | no problem | 20:14 |
| al1r4d | morning from indonesia ☕ | 23:01 |
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