| u-amarsh04 | starting to get the t64 transition in unstable | 05:52 |
|---|---|---|
| CueXXIII | great, now libpam-modules-bin in unstable got a libsystemd0 (>= 254) dependency… | 15:43 |
| golinux | CueXXIII: Please read this post "Why are systemd files present in Devuan?" | 15:46 |
| golinux | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=1925 | 15:46 |
| CueXXIII | golinux: yeah, but that version is not yet supported by libelogind0 | 15:47 |
| golinux | Well the takeaway in that post is: | 15:48 |
| golinux | "libsystemd0 is used by some daemons to verify if systemd is running or | 15:49 |
| golinux | not. If it's not, libsystemd is *totally* *harmless*. " | 15:49 |
| golinux | But then the details are above my paygrade | 15:49 |
| u-amarsh04 | it's the middle of the 64 bit time transition, so not everything in unstable will be able to be upgraded at once | 15:50 |
| CueXXIII | oh wait, there is libsystemd0 in devuan, but libelogind-compat conflicts with it | 15:51 |
| golinux | Then that would be new behavior. Maybe file a bug | 15:53 |
| golinux | But then it is in unstable so should work out in time | 15:54 |
| mason | CueXXIII: libelogind0 should replace libsystemd0 more or less completely, if you're not building packages. | 15:55 |
| CueXXIII | yeah, the time_t transition isn't fun, either :) | 15:55 |
| mason | Seems like you're seeing the less completely, reading what you said again. | 15:55 |
| mason | Sorry for the noise. | 15:56 |
| CueXXIII | yes, currently it is less completely, unfortunately | 15:56 |
| Dev1BleedingEdge | Seems there is a package mismatch in Ceres. libpam-modules libpam-modules-bin and python3-apt kept back because they depend on Package libsystemd0. libelogind-compat is installed. | 19:22 |
| ted-ious | Dev1BleedingEdge: People were talking about that a few hours ago. | 19:24 |
| ted-ious | I think it's some kind of work in progress and it should resolve itself eventually. | 19:24 |
| hagbard | Seems rather be due to a dependency of libapt-pkg6.0, wich isn't there. | 19:25 |
| hagbard | well, it's there, but not in the required version, due to the devuan fork lagging behind debian. | 19:26 |
| CueXXIII | yeah, elogind is only released up to 252.9, not 254. there is a 255-alpha, but it seems to move slowly | 19:27 |
| asbesto | btw, devuan netinst became a real pain in the ass. IDK why | 20:15 |
| asbesto | lot of errors | 20:15 |
| gnarface | can't really help with so little information | 20:20 |
| golinux | asbesto: Perhaps usrmerge? | 20:20 |
| asbesto | I'm installing the stable | 20:26 |
| asbesto | gave me an error, can't find the kernel image | 20:26 |
| asbesto | I'm trying again now | 20:27 |
| gnarface | asbesto: try it in expert mode and pick a different kernel from the list | 20:29 |
| asbesto | ok, got the error | 20:30 |
| asbesto | it fails to fetch something from cdrom:// | 20:30 |
| asbesto | at boot, I had an error on this cdrom mount | 20:31 |
| asbesto | I think is something related to the UEFI madness | 20:31 |
| gnarface | asbesto: no, if you got it installed and got it to boot, the cdrom:// error is just because it left the cdrom in your /etc/apt/sources.list because you didn't configure networking during install | 20:32 |
| gnarface | just fix your /etc/apt/sources.list and that error will go away | 20:32 |
| asbesto | I did. wifi and all | 20:32 |
| gnarface | very strange, but check your /etc/apt/sources.list for a cdrom line anyway | 20:32 |
| asbesto | maybe a driver is missing for it? | 20:32 |
| gnarface | i don't think it would have let you configure wifi if it couldn't find a driver, that's literally the first step | 20:33 |
| asbesto | no, I'm connected | 20:33 |
| asbesto | ping is fine | 20:33 |
| gnarface | /etc/apt/sources.list, just open the file in a text editor | 20:33 |
| gnarface | if you see any lines with cdrom in them, comment them out by adding a # to the beginning of the line | 20:34 |
| asbesto | no apt dir in /etc | 20:34 |
| asbesto | O_o | 20:34 |
| gnarface | are you sure? | 20:34 |
| asbesto | yep | 20:34 |
| gnarface | i've never heard of that happening before | 20:35 |
| gnarface | which install image did you use exactly? show me the download link | 20:35 |
| asbesto | sorry I have a phone call | 20:35 |
| asbesto | ok sorry. I don't trust this image. I had this installer from some time ago. | 20:40 |
| asbesto | I'm downloading now from mirror.leaseweb.com | 20:40 |
| asbesto | netinstall x64 | 20:41 |
| asbesto | and try again :) | 20:41 |
| asbesto | I had this problem a while ago but now I can't remember how I fixed it | 20:43 |
| asbesto | I remember fiddlin with the BIOS uefi settings but maybe that was a different problem | 20:43 |
| asbesto | btw | 20:44 |
| asbesto | what is this "usrmerge" thing? | 20:44 |
| asbesto | I never heard of it | 20:45 |
| gnarface | don't worry about that yet, it's only in testing and unstable so far | 20:47 |
| gnarface | if you stay on daedalus you'll be fine | 20:47 |
| asbesto | yeah but what did they ruined this time? | 20:47 |
| gnarface | i dunno they're like moving everything into /usr/bin for some dumb reason | 20:48 |
| asbesto | omg. | 20:48 |
| asbesto | meanwhile thank for your patience :) | 20:49 |
| gnarface | there are probably some discussions about it on the forum and mailing list, but if not there at least in the IRC logs | 20:49 |
| asbesto | I will check | 20:49 |
| gnarface | a couple people have been working on dealing with it in here, if you stick around you can probably get some tips from them directly | 20:50 |
| gnarface | but basically the short version is it's gonna temporarily and systematically break packages in testing and unstable while they finish relocating stuff | 20:50 |
| gnarface | none of the symptoms you've described as problems right now sound like they're related thoguh | 20:51 |
| gnarface | though* | 20:51 |
| gnarface | i can't imagine any reason why /etc/apt/ would be missing, that seems like your previous install didn't even finish | 20:51 |
| asbesto | now I got another error, something about a partition in use while creating the partition in the disk, and it said that I must reboot | 20:52 |
| asbesto | but is continuing | 20:52 |
| rwp | Agreed! I can't imagine /etc/apt being missing. | 20:52 |
| asbesto | me too :) | 20:52 |
| asbesto | now it's installing the linux image. | 20:52 |
| gnarface | "partition in use while creating partition" sounds like user error... | 20:52 |
| asbesto | and I got no errors. | 20:53 |
| asbesto | user error. VERY LIKELY :D | 20:53 |
| gnarface | well, maybe some secure boot problem too, not sure | 20:53 |
| gnarface | secure boot can complicate stuff | 20:53 |
| asbesto | indeed | 20:54 |
| asbesto | I generally hate when they force security on users. | 20:54 |
| asbesto | I want telnet back, just to say. LOL | 20:54 |
| asbesto | but I'm too old. :) | 20:54 |
| asbesto | ok, another phone call, sorry | 20:55 |
| asbesto | installation is going on. I think my previous image was somehow defective | 21:05 |
| gnarface | sometimes they just get too old to work right | 21:08 |
| gnarface | there's a phase where it has to download a kernel and sometimes it gets so old it doesn't know how to look for the right kernel | 21:09 |
| gnarface | kindof a known issue with the netinstalls | 21:09 |
| gnarface | but people also seem to occasionally get counterfeit installers from unofficial mirrors | 21:10 |
| golinux | asbesto: https://www.devuan.org/os/announce/excalibur-usrmerge-announce-2024-02-20.html | 21:17 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!