libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2024-03-01

al1r4dI had trouble connecting to the 8021x wifi connection on IWD, so I switched to network-manager.09:14
al1r4doh yeah, network manager, thank you09:15
cousin_luigial1r4d: network manager can use either wpa_supplicant or iwd10:41
HumanG33khello, do you know if needrestart(default conf) can prevent/break unattended-upgrade ?13:38
CueXXIIIi don't see how it could, it is run after the upgrade from apt13:40
HumanG33kCueXXIII: with no tty so needrestart can keep lock on apt files waiting user interaction will never come ?13:41
CueXXIIIit says to only list needed changes when run with no tty in the manpage13:43
CueXXIIIand it should not hold any locks anymore…13:47
CueXXIIIah, it would hold locks (E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock-frontend. It is held by process 7094 (apt-get)) as long as needrestart is blocking13:48
CueXXIIIbut it would just stop further unattended upgrades13:48
iasg1hello! i am running devuan 5 with runit.  i have no experience with it prior to now. i need a line of script to execute on boot. what file do i edit?15:33
iasg1(must be run as root because it edits my laptop's voltage variable)15:34
CueXXIIIif nothing else works (i don't know runit either), you can specify @reboot in the crontab15:46
fsmithrediasg1, it might work to put it in /etc/rc.local - runit uses sysvinit scripts if there's no runit script, so maybe. (I haven't tested it.)15:52
iasg1fsmithred: i'll try that one now15:54
iasg1CueXXIII: unfortunately cron and anacron are not an option for me15:54
iasg1fsmithred: it worked! thank you all!15:55
gordonDrogonupgrading desktop from Beowulf to Chimera - if I don't return you'll know it's failed...22:30
gordonDrogonit's broken my desktop. I can no-longer right click to get the menu and the colours are wrong (again). Bother.22:32
gnarfacegordonDrogon: you sure it's not expected behavior? i know they changed the default theme from red to blue, and maybe they just moved the right-click menu to a different mouse button?22:34
gordonDrogontried other buttons. no joy. this worked a couple of weeks back on my laptop.22:34
gordonDrogonI did it on the laptop as it was fairly sactificial..22:34
gordonDrogonwhat the photon! Warning - unsafe paste. Not had that before. Don't get it on the laptop. *groan* Stop babying me.22:39
gnarfaceheh, yea it warns you now when pasting newlines or other control characters into a terminal22:45
gnarfacei don't mind it much but it's slightly annoying, i have been meaning to look into how to turn it off22:46
gnarfacesomeone around here probably knows22:46
gordonDrogonweird I didn't get it on the laptop. You right-click in the terminal and find preferances - it's at the bottom.22:49
gordonDrogonmore unneeded bloat )-:22:49
gnarfacehmm, no right-click menu on urxvt22:52
rrqgnarface: afaiui, that "bracketed paste" mis-feature belongs to bash22:55
rrqturned off with: bind 'set enable-bracketed-paste 0'22:55
gnarfaceah, thanks rrq22:55
rrq(that command results in some warning message in non-interactive mode)22:58
gordonDrogonlooks like I hit this: https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/-/issues/22322:58
gordonDrogonweird I didn't see it on the laptop, however I'm now upgrading from C to D, so maybe it'll be fixed then..22:59
gnarfacegordonDrogon: only idea i have about why you might see it on one install but not another is that maybe on the one where it broke you didn't have a default gtk icon theme to fall back on... i've seen a bug like this hit Firefox at some point a long time ago23:09
gordonDrogonmaybe. D upgrade is failing on my desktop and I don't want to reboot until the kernel gets installed rightly.23:10
gnarfaceoh, or maybe it's just the settings of turning off the icons, but i guess i had assumed you checked that already23:10
gnarfaceugh, yea, uh, beware of 6.1.0-18 if you're using nvidia hardware, i don't know if a fix has been published yet23:11
gnarfacenot seeing anything newer in the repos yet23:12
gordonDrogonyup - nvidia. I had one once, but not now.23:12
gnarfacebut 6.1.0-17 should still work23:12
gordonDrogonso purged it and the upgrade seems fine - going to reboot - again, lets hope for the best..23:12
gordonDrogonalmost. still not right-click menu.23:14
gordonDrogonand it's now lost some keybindings - but the laptop did that too )-:23:14
gnarfacehmm23:17
gnarfacewell, the advice that fixed firefox for me all those years ago23:17
joergdang, I see  https://gitlab.xfce.org/ and I *read* XKCD ;-)23:17
gnarface... was to install "tango-icon-theme" then add gtk-icon-theme-name="Tango" to the ~/.gtkrc-2.0 file23:18
gnarface(theoretically any icon theme would work)23:18
gnarfacethat way it won't just collapse buttons that expect graphics23:19
gordonDrogonthat bug report says to "check" the box, but I can't get no box to check..23:21
gnarfacehmm23:22
gnarfacei wonder if it can be manually changed in a text file somewhere instead23:22
gordonDrogonI've grepped all files for that message - not found.23:23
gnarfacehey golinux do you know any fix for this?23:26
golinuxReading . . .23:28
golinuxhave to catch up23:28
gnarfacegolinux: specifically the missing right-click menu in xfce on chimaera thing, the thing about unsafe pastes isn't important23:29
golinuxThanks. That doesn't sound familiar and I did a fresh Chimaera install because I didn't want to have to go through ascii and beowulf23:31
golinuxEverything worked fine once I had everything in place.23:32
gordonDrogonif I run this on my laptop: xfconf-query -c xfce4-desktop -lv23:33
golinuxI did a refracta install now that I think about it23:33
gordonDrogonthen I see: /desktop-menu/show                                      true23:33
gordonDrogonbut it's false on my desktop. I just can't yet find where that is set..23:33
gordonDrogonhowever it will have to wait until tomorrow. bed time here.23:34
golinuxfsmithred would know23:36
golinuxGive him a sec to see this.23:36
gnarfacethe thing about it happening to one install but not the other makes me think missing package23:36
golinuxThere could be lots of variables in an upbrade23:37
golinuxb > g23:38

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