| ac_laptop | hello people | 19:07 |
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| ac_laptop | concerning the installation of debian on an n900, there are half a dozen different resources online. If I were to install a debian on an n900 in 2023, which one would I start with ? | 19:11 |
| ac_laptop | https://wiki.debian.org/pkg-n900 | 19:11 |
| ac_laptop | https://wiki.debian.org/pkg-n900 https://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnN900?action=show&redirect=n900-wheezy-armhf https://wiki.debian.org/MaemoAndSqueeze https://n900.elektranox.org/installation.html https://github.com/dderby/debian900 | 19:12 |
| ac_laptop | (↑↑↑ the list of the different resources I've found) | 19:12 |
| Wizzup | maybe maemo leste if you don't want to chroot on fremantle | 19:28 |
| ac_laptop | Is this the last one ? | 19:35 |
| ac_laptop | oh you mean this https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900 | 19:41 |
| ac_laptop | is this similar to a debian install ? | 19:41 |
| bencoh | ac_laptop: it's devuan-based, so pretty-much, yeah | 19:44 |
| ac_laptop | Here is my goal : I'd like to replace the operating system with something I'm more familiar with, remove the Maemo graphical interface for phat fingers and be able to access a real terminal + a few graphical apps ans configure shortcuts so everything can be launched and used using only the keyboard and the buttons. Is it possible to do this with maemo-leste ? | 19:45 |
| bencoh | I guess you could remove the hildon parts and start your own wm instead | 19:47 |
| Wizzup | ac_laptop: maemo leste is like maemo but with debian/devuan underneath | 19:54 |
| Wizzup | if you want your own wm then it's a poor choice | 19:54 |
| Wizzup | it's basically maemo but in a modern jacket | 19:54 |
| ac_laptop | Wizzup: is it possible to install it on the eMMC in place of Maemo then ? | 19:55 |
| Wizzup | yes, but I haven't tried this yet, I just run it from the sd card | 19:56 |
| ac_laptop | what's the difference between u-boot-2013.04-2.bin and u-boot-2020.12-pali.bin ? | 20:11 |
| ac_laptop | from https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/n900/tools/ | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | one is newer :) | 20:14 |
| Wizzup | supports more things | 20:14 |
| ac_laptop | Wizzup: should I use it then ? the doc says sudo ./0xFFFF -m test/u-boot-2013.04-2.bin -l | 20:15 |
| Wizzup | either will work | 20:19 |
| Wizzup | I think the 2020 one can give usb tty for u-boot | 20:19 |
| ac_laptop | ok so I've launched ./0xFFFF -m u-boot-2020.12-pali.bin -l | 20:22 |
| ac_laptop | connected the unpowered N900 via the USB port | 20:22 |
| ac_laptop | I get a Waiting for USB device... / | 20:22 |
| ac_laptop | the last symbol used to turn fast now it turns slowly | 20:23 |
| ac_laptop | the charge LED is blinking orange but that's all | 20:24 |
| ac_laptop | shoudl I try to power the N900 ? | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | 3. Turn off Nokia N900, issue the following command on PC and connect Nokia N900 to the PC: sudo ./0xFFFF -m test/u-boot-2013.04-2.bin -l | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | 4. Open the keyboard slider on the N900, and then issue following command on PC to test boot: ./0xFFFF -b | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | are you doing this? | 20:25 |
| ac_laptop | Wizzup:shouldn't the first command be over before I go to step 4. ? | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | yes | 20:27 |
| ac_laptop | I assume 0xFFFF doesn't find the device then | 20:27 |
| Wizzup | yes, could be | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | are you running it as root? | 20:28 |
| ac_laptop | Wizzup: yes | 20:30 |
| ac_laptop | mh wait | 20:35 |
| ac_laptop | If I plug it on a different USB port I get a long message | 20:39 |
| ac_laptop | https://paste.debian.net/hidden/05a0bd06/ | 20:40 |
| ac_laptop | I'll try again | 20:41 |
| ac_laptop | it worked on second try ! https://paste.debian.net/hidden/3705bff6/ | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | great | 20:46 |
| ac_laptop | # ./0xFFFF -b worked and I get a boot menu on the N900 screen but the screen is not powered and I can barely see | 20:49 |
| ac_laptop | there are two line to choose from | 20:49 |
| ac_laptop | Maemo 5 with attached kernel 2.6.28-omap1 (Internal Nand) | 20:50 |
| ac_laptop | U-Boot console | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | you need to have maemo leste on the sd card to see it in the u-boot menu entry | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | u-boot is just a boot manager | 20:51 |
| ac_laptop | yes, I have put the mSD card into the N900 after I ran dd on it | 20:51 |
| ac_laptop | are there any prerequisite on the mSD card to use ? | 20:51 |
| Wizzup | did you decompress the xz before dd? | 20:52 |
| Wizzup | also, there is #maemo-leste on libera | 20:52 |
| ac_laptop | Wizzup: no | 20:52 |
| Wizzup | you need to decompress before dd | 20:52 |
| ac_laptop | ok | 20:52 |
| ac_laptop | I'm an idiot xD | 20:53 |
| Wizzup | np, this happens to more people than you can imagine | 20:53 |
| ac_laptop | how do I turn the device off from u-boot ? | 20:54 |
| ac_laptop | oh, poweroff | 20:55 |
| ac_laptop | I have flashed the mSD and rebooted using ./0xFFFF -b , it still doesn't appear in the boot menu | 21:30 |
| ac_laptop | trying u-boot console | 21:31 |
| ac_laptop | run sdboot displays a few errors, then tries to launch a kernel, then nothing, black screen | 21:33 |
| Wizzup | see if you can mount the sdcard in your system | 21:33 |
| ac_laptop | wait no there is something written | 21:33 |
| ac_laptop | ok it's booting, the scren was just not backlit | 21:33 |
| Wizzup | that can happen if it boots from actdead mode | 21:34 |
| Wizzup | check #maemo-leste for some more hints to make the system a bit faster than the defaults | 21:34 |
| ac_laptop | it went at the end of the boot sequence, now tere's a black screen, still backlit | 21:34 |
| ac_laptop | ok I guess it just takes time to boot from the card | 21:34 |
| ac_laptop | "Welcome to Leste" \o/ | 21:35 |
| ac_laptop | hum it was very slow and then it rebooted | 21:37 |
| ac_laptop | and now run sdboot diplays errors, the same as previously, 'No partition table - mmc 0' | 21:38 |
| ac_laptop | but this time it stops after those lines | 21:38 |
| ac_laptop | I can't use 'poweroff' this time | 21:39 |
| ac_laptop | can I scroll up in the u-boot console ? | 21:40 |
| ac_laptop | I wish I could use | < > | 21:41 |
| ac_laptop | power button doesn't do anything, I'll have to remove the battery I guess | 21:42 |
| ac_laptop | Also I don't understand why the U-Boot menu still says 2013.04 | 21:55 |
| ac_laptop | ok I've managed to boot on it and run /etc/expandcard.sh | 22:06 |
| ac_laptop | I don't know why maemo-leste crashed the first time though | 22:06 |
| ac_laptop | also I don't know why I can't seem to be able boot maemo-leste without using ./0xFFFF -b | 22:07 |
| ac_laptop | I'll try with a different mSD card when I have the opportunity, maybe there's a problem with this one | 22:08 |
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