| duuude | my emmc seems to be broken :( | 07:34 |
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| duuude | uboot boots but maemo doesn't (however it doesn't make sense. where does uboot itself boot from?) | 07:34 |
| duuude | could fremantle be installed on a sdcard? | 07:34 |
| Maxdamantus | u-boot is usually on NAND. | 07:43 |
| Maxdamantus | and yes, it's possible to run fremantle from an SD card. | 07:44 |
| Maxdamantus | (though it would require manual setting up) | 07:44 |
| Maxdamantus | iirc most of the important parts of fremantle are usually on NAND, not on eMMC. | 07:45 |
| Maxdamantus | I think it usually just has /opt and /home on eMMC. I remember intentionally rerranging it so that it was all on eMMC instead of NAND. | 07:46 |
| Maxdamantus | (including using a large ext4 partition on eMMC with no FAT, instead of the small ext[23] partition plus large FAT32 partition) | 07:47 |
| duuude | Maxdamantus: so, what could my problem be? | 07:48 |
| Maxdamantus | Dunno. What happens when you try to boot? | 07:48 |
| duuude | the uboot menu comes, it seems to be able to load the kernel, stops at the "starting the kernel" part. also I can't charge the phone. | 07:50 |
| Maxdamantus | Did it stop working randomly, or was it after changing something to do with the boot sequence? Did you have it set up to show the kernel log during boot? | 07:53 |
| duuude | Maxdamantus: the socket seemed to broken, I did some trial and error to see which part is causing the problem, socket, cable, battery, the charger etc. | 07:54 |
| Maxdamantus | I meant booting Maemo. | 07:55 |
| duuude | I did connect it to a PC and the menu for USB access came, i think this could have played a part in breaking the emmc | 07:55 |
| duuude | Maxdamantus: it booted normally before the socket was found to be broken and didn't boot after I fixed it | 07:56 |
| Maxdamantus | not sure about different versions/builds of u-boot, but afaik it should be possible to charge within u-boot by interrupting the boot sequence (eg, pressing an arrow button while at the boot menu) then plugging in the charger. | 07:57 |
| duuude | maemo was up and running when I was doing the trial and error | 07:57 |
| Maxdamantus | ime the light will go orange around 10 seconds after plugging the charger in while it's in u-boot, and I think it will be charging at a higher rate than in the off state. | 07:58 |
| duuude | Maxdamantus: I did try that, now it doesn't even turn on. let me try again. | 07:58 |
| duuude | perhaps the battery is completely depleted | 07:58 |
| duuude | it seems to be charging when turned off and not connected to a pc | 08:00 |
| sicelo | if the battery is not empty, maybe all you need is a reflash (if you're not able to recover using other means) | 08:00 |
| duuude | how could it even tell the difference | 08:00 |
| duuude | sicelo: was thinking about it | 08:01 |
| duuude | it just shows a consistent yellow light instead of fading pulses | 08:01 |
| Maxdamantus | That's normal within u-boot. | 08:02 |
| Maxdamantus | the pulsating behaviour comes from Maemo. | 08:02 |
| duuude | there is no u-boot. it didn't even boot | 08:02 |
| Maxdamantus | okay, that's also normal when the device is off, but afaik it will be charging very slowly in that state. | 08:03 |
| duuude | why didn't it charge from a pc? | 08:03 |
| Maxdamantus | maybe it behaves differently depending on whether it detects the charger as a dumb power supply (when resistance between D+ and D- is less than some particular amount) | 08:04 |
| sicelo | sounds like heavily depleted battery indeed. you can't (easily) charge from pc if that's the case | 08:06 |
| duuude | would it stop itself if it is full? | 08:08 |
| sicelo | stop charging? it would show green led if maemo is healthy | 08:15 |
| duuude | what if there is no maemo? | 08:21 |
| sicelo | the charging chip can take care of itself to some extent. it will charge | 08:31 |
| KotCzarny | spajki na zasadzie 'o, podstawki' | 17:38 |
| KotCzarny | 4 porty sata ale marvell | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | i to nie odkurzacz a dmuchawka | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | i albo powietrze w puszkach (nie-eko i drogo) | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | albo kompresor, drogo | 17:39 |
| KotCzarny | te bateryjne podobno dosc slabe | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | jak masz auto to mozesz 'odkurzacz' do auta | 17:40 |
| bencoh | KotCzarny: hi, but wrong chan I think <3 | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | pf, elektrostatycznie sie izolujesz jak grzebiesz? | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | ;) | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | darn, wrong window | 17:40 |
| KotCzarny | and sorry for the spam ;) | 17:41 |
| joerg | >>I'd like to replace the operating system with something I'm more familiar with, remove the Maemo graphical interface for phat fingers and be able to access a real terminal + a few graphical apps ans configure shortcuts so everything can be launched and used using only the keyboard and the buttons.<< seems all that would be possible even with original maemo fremantle, just the "OS you're more familiar with" sounds a tad strange, for me there's no huge | 17:50 |
| joerg | difference between a generic debian and maemo | 17:50 |
| joerg | hmmm >>Found USB device: RX-51/RM-680/RM-696 (0x421:0x106) in Cold flashing mode<< | 17:55 |
| joerg | not sure if you want to replace NOLO | 17:56 |
| joerg | https://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2021-01-16.log.html#t2021-01-16T19:08:44 ~flatbatrecover ~bootloop | 18:02 |
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